老人考上醫科 該去念嗎? - 科技業
By Noah
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大哥你把醫生的career快轉太多的
醫學院畢業之後 住院醫師四年 都是領很QQ的薪水
而剛升上主治醫師的時候 薪水也約10萬而已
更何況台灣有超厲害的健保制度來壓榨
10萬多不多? 景氣不好的時候真的很多 景氣好的時候真的很少...
而電機產業最大的不同就是跟景氣和公司有關係
景氣好就會躺著賺一比超大的
就像你舉的例子 除了MS之外都是硬體公司
MS的例子也不恰當 自然淘汰?windows做在爛我們還是得買
頂多說沒有成長性才是
台灣來說 現在電機電子產業景氣差就不用提了
可是美國因為現在科技業景氣相當的好
尤其是軟體業 不僅工作機會多到爆炸 而且每家薪水都是很誇張的package
運氣好進到成長性高的公司 收入更是翻倍
小弟就剛好很幸運畢業進到一家公司 一進去沒多久股票變兩倍
薪水就瞬間變成原來的1.5倍了
不過我室友 在更對時間進去另外一家公司
如果以台灣的物價水準看的話 就算考慮重稅 和生活費 他幹完四年也是
很多人一輩子都存不到的退休金了
不過當然 要看景氣和產業 2000 和2009年初 是美國金融風暴的時候
除了「極少數」公司 大多數公司都裁員關門
所以簡單說就是要穩定性 就選醫生 要衝就選EECS
另外景氣波動是很快的 不是全世界都跟台灣政府一樣沒做事情....
2009年的薪水 跟2013年 同一份工作已經差了3成以上了....
整個景氣的狀況也完全不一樣
在2009年初的美國 科技業找的到工作超難
在2013年的美國 科技業要找不到比找到還難...
再來從來沒有人跟你說美國只要新鮮的肝
美國不是台灣 要肝幹嘛? 你上班日都去公司上班就已經很讓他們肅然起敬了
科技業除了start up和很多比較拼的公司之外
大公司一堆很冗很冗的工作根本不用肝 ....
所以這些大公司其實也很多人在那邊養老 例如我前任主管...
Anyway 小節一下
美國科技業絕對沒R大講的差 不過台灣科技業是真的很差
醫生的收入相對投入來說實在不高 不過確實是有穩定的優勢
不過如果原po是要追求夢想的話 如果沒經濟壓力還是建議選擇自己想做的事情
沒錯畢業的時候老了一點錢少賺一點 但如果是自己開心的事情 那又何妨
※ 引述《runnial (呵呵)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《miluco (I'm feeling lucky)》之銘言:
: 我真的建議你念醫科,不管美國或台灣
: 說真的台灣或美國可以到台幣50萬,還有穩定度
: 醫科>>>>>EE,CS
: 我同學台積電RD,或製程(台大物理,交大物理研所)
: 好幾個都跑掉,都跑去考公職老師
: 有一個做3年RD工作我覺得都不錯爽缺
: 現在還跑去老師實習
: 美國情況
: 我身邊朋友
: Intel analog RD學長: 上海交大EE,美國top 3X master,phd 那個位置還一定要
: phd才可以,ISSCC發表過一篇文章第一作者,擔心 Layoff
: 另一個Intel朋友在intel待至少15年,年紀4X,也是擔心
: Microchip:同學在那聽說要減薪
: Navida:CS同學在那也是覺得不穩定
: Microsoft:也會自然淘汰
: Marvell:我修課同學2009工作至少六年做Digital被裁,至少找工作半年都找不到
: Freescale:學長2009被Layoff
: 你知道前幾天Cisco裁4000人
: IBM之前也裁員也是裁好幾千人
: AMD之前也是裁不少
: 至少我身邊美國EE朋友(樣本>10)至少一半擔心Lay off
: 你年輕沒感覺,4X-5X歲被裁,科技業是要新鮮的肝
: 你沒有那種一直投resume,都找不到適合工作
: 不管美國或台灣
: 現在又不比以前,在台灣或美國做多久就可以退休
: 美國早退休是要運氣
--
醫學院畢業之後 住院醫師四年 都是領很QQ的薪水
而剛升上主治醫師的時候 薪水也約10萬而已
更何況台灣有超厲害的健保制度來壓榨
10萬多不多? 景氣不好的時候真的很多 景氣好的時候真的很少...
而電機產業最大的不同就是跟景氣和公司有關係
景氣好就會躺著賺一比超大的
就像你舉的例子 除了MS之外都是硬體公司
MS的例子也不恰當 自然淘汰?windows做在爛我們還是得買
頂多說沒有成長性才是
台灣來說 現在電機電子產業景氣差就不用提了
可是美國因為現在科技業景氣相當的好
尤其是軟體業 不僅工作機會多到爆炸 而且每家薪水都是很誇張的package
運氣好進到成長性高的公司 收入更是翻倍
小弟就剛好很幸運畢業進到一家公司 一進去沒多久股票變兩倍
薪水就瞬間變成原來的1.5倍了
不過我室友 在更對時間進去另外一家公司
如果以台灣的物價水準看的話 就算考慮重稅 和生活費 他幹完四年也是
很多人一輩子都存不到的退休金了
不過當然 要看景氣和產業 2000 和2009年初 是美國金融風暴的時候
除了「極少數」公司 大多數公司都裁員關門
所以簡單說就是要穩定性 就選醫生 要衝就選EECS
另外景氣波動是很快的 不是全世界都跟台灣政府一樣沒做事情....
2009年的薪水 跟2013年 同一份工作已經差了3成以上了....
整個景氣的狀況也完全不一樣
在2009年初的美國 科技業找的到工作超難
在2013年的美國 科技業要找不到比找到還難...
再來從來沒有人跟你說美國只要新鮮的肝
美國不是台灣 要肝幹嘛? 你上班日都去公司上班就已經很讓他們肅然起敬了
科技業除了start up和很多比較拼的公司之外
大公司一堆很冗很冗的工作根本不用肝 ....
所以這些大公司其實也很多人在那邊養老 例如我前任主管...
Anyway 小節一下
美國科技業絕對沒R大講的差 不過台灣科技業是真的很差
醫生的收入相對投入來說實在不高 不過確實是有穩定的優勢
不過如果原po是要追求夢想的話 如果沒經濟壓力還是建議選擇自己想做的事情
沒錯畢業的時候老了一點錢少賺一點 但如果是自己開心的事情 那又何妨
※ 引述《runnial (呵呵)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《miluco (I'm feeling lucky)》之銘言:
: 我真的建議你念醫科,不管美國或台灣
: 說真的台灣或美國可以到台幣50萬,還有穩定度
: 醫科>>>>>EE,CS
: 我同學台積電RD,或製程(台大物理,交大物理研所)
: 好幾個都跑掉,都跑去考公職老師
: 有一個做3年RD工作我覺得都不錯爽缺
: 現在還跑去老師實習
: 美國情況
: 我身邊朋友
: Intel analog RD學長: 上海交大EE,美國top 3X master,phd 那個位置還一定要
: phd才可以,ISSCC發表過一篇文章第一作者,擔心 Layoff
: 另一個Intel朋友在intel待至少15年,年紀4X,也是擔心
: Microchip:同學在那聽說要減薪
: Navida:CS同學在那也是覺得不穩定
: Microsoft:也會自然淘汰
: Marvell:我修課同學2009工作至少六年做Digital被裁,至少找工作半年都找不到
: Freescale:學長2009被Layoff
: 你知道前幾天Cisco裁4000人
: IBM之前也裁員也是裁好幾千人
: AMD之前也是裁不少
: 至少我身邊美國EE朋友(樣本>10)至少一半擔心Lay off
: 你年輕沒感覺,4X-5X歲被裁,科技業是要新鮮的肝
: 你沒有那種一直投resume,都找不到適合工作
: 不管美國或台灣
: 現在又不比以前,在台灣或美國做多久就可以退休
: 美國早退休是要運氣
--
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