35歲領3萬很要不得嗎? - 加班

By Noah
at 2020-07-18T13:01
at 2020-07-18T13:01
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我來分享一下我的經驗
小妹不到三十,學歷只有私立五專畢業,從事非本科系工作,地點在做功德的台南。
2020我的年薪是72萬(非業務工作,非科技業,非軟體或系統或機電工程師)
我還記得四年前(2016年)我曾經發文(非本版)問過我的工作的薪水值不值得
當時2016年 我的薪水是24k(扣勞健保實領)
四年前,當初回推文的人全部都告訴我不值得,不要繼續從事此行業。
但我看到前景,看到往後十年我的職業生活,所以我選擇忍耐當時的低薪。
我的本科系是牙體技術師,我也考過高考,通過國家考試後當年老闆開給我的薪水是三萬元
責任制無加班費每天工時超過12小時。
當時有一個帶我的老師傅,沒意外我這輩子都不會忘記他所說的話。
2015年我考取牙體技術師時。
老師傅語重心長的說:你看看你的長輩跟上司,等你坐上那個位置,那就是你未來十年的
樣子。
我畢業後做牙體技術師約半年就毅然決然不從事本科系工作。
我不希望我未來十年每天工時超過12小時,看著公司的大家沒有時間休假,
小孩出生沒時間照顧,小孩從產假請完開始就落到保母或家人手中。
當初來到台南一切從零開始。
我來到台南時找了一份工安的工作,非本科系無經驗一個月的薪水只有24K
隨著考過執照跟經驗提升,我終於來到30K天花板。
當時我曾經發過文詢問這個職業的前景,大家都說死豬價沒前景,證照越來越難考,
趁年輕趕快轉換跑道,可是我什麼都不會怎麼轉換跑道?
好死不死我的同伴(監工)說要離職,我當下馬上決定我要當監工
可是我不是本科系,我不讀土木工程,我不懂機電,我甚至連什麼叫做碟閥都不知道。
但我知道如果我不轉職,我一輩子都只能領30-35K
當年我們監工提離職時,我就自告奮勇跟公司提出讓我試試看當監工。
一開始薪水低沒關係,但如果我真的不適合,他們再請人也可以。
就這樣開啟了我監工的生涯。
2017年我接監工時,所有跟我們配合的業主都下巴掉在地上
大家說:你要當監工?你明天就離職了吧?
:你當監工做不到兩個月就受不了了
:你當監工被幹樵就飽了
:你有辦法應付師傅嗎?
:這種管路這麼複雜你會看嗎?我看你連管徑都不會看吧!
隨著時間過去,我從每天被罵,到現在每天翹著腳看工班施工。
從每天被三字經問候祖宗,到現在大家平起平坐。
從每天被質疑看管路的能力,到現在沒人質疑我的能力。
從每天為了調度工作跟工安吵架,到現在跟工安一起翹腳喝咖啡。
我不是要炫耀我的職業經歷,我只想說,
你想領多少薪水就要付出多少努力,出社會之後的每個人都是一張白紙。
你如果安於三萬元的薪水,然後望著45K興嘆,這樣你的薪水永遠都只有30K。
我當監工在工地看過各種形形色色的人,
雖然我出社會沒幾年,但我這幾年的觀察下來
薪水一成不變的人都有以下的特點:
1.先這樣就夠了/這樣就好/再說
2.沒有規劃未來的能力/對未來沒有期許
3.害怕變動/不能接受新的事物/總是認為現在比較好
4.無論做什麼都先否定自己/這太難了我不行/別人總是比我強/這樣一定會失敗
薪水總是三級跳的人都有以下特點:
1.先做再說/失敗就再檢討
2.會規劃自己未來需要達到多少標/會觀察週遭事物對未來有成見
3.總想嘗試新事物/即使變動也不會焦躁不安/認為要賺錢就要放眼未來
4.做什麼總是先評估自己達不到的會想辦法達到/不會否定自己的能力
我想問現在在看這篇文章的你屬於那一種人?
我有同事單親的/單薪的/家庭狀況複雜的
薪水都領得比你高,年紀也比你輕。
但大家都要忍受在大太陽底下工作,不能在辦公室吹冷氣。
要忍受每天在現場被工班幹樵,在現場被業主刁難,
準備兩三個月的案子被長官大手一揮馬上回絕。
要忍受現場的噪音,高溫度,高壓力,灰塵,師傅的煙味,檳榔味,師傅的脾氣。
以前我還沒出社會的時候,很羨慕醫師工程師老師(我表姐表哥)
我一直以為書讀的好,就可以翹著腳工作。
但書社會這麼多年我才發現,書讀的好,只是一張讓你入場的門票而已。
醫師也要忍受各種高壓跟病患的情緒,
工程師也要忍受輪班爆肝被上司幹飛被廠商衝康的壓力。
老師要應付一堆屁孩還有恐龍家長,還有教師評鑑,下班也要準備資料。
出社會我才知道,當年的學歷只是一張邀請你進入那個領域的入場券。
當年的學歷並不是無壓力的高薪保證書。
這個社會上有很多沒有學歷的人(非本科)
但他們都能忍受別人不能忍受的事。
你呢?
※ 引述《VVVV55555 (東興烏鴉-小妹)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《coucouhoho (皓皓)》之銘言:
: : 在其它板上不巧提到目前35歲領3萬這件事
: : 其他版友不少聲音認為這是一件見不得人的事情需要我做個檢討
: : 一直以來我周遭同學,雖然不同行業也和我領差不多薪水
: : 所以對於這問題來說,真的是如此嗎?
: : 學歷背景:
: : 私立高中資處科
: : 私立大學日文系
: : 一畢業碰到2007年金融海嘯
: : 沒經驗之外也沒有工作機會
: : 2008年碰上政府幫忙釋放職缺契約行政助理,才終於有工作經驗
: : 2009年走入漫長5年教育訓練人員 薪資約2萬2~2萬4
: : 做了5年體會到這教育訓練也不會在往上升的機會,小公司訓練一人身兼多職。
: : 雖做了5年,薪水從2萬4也調漲到2萬6~2萬7。
: : 2014年辭職嘗試從事業助 薪水整個又回到底層2萬2左右
: : 2015年業助接觸到採購 薪水調整到2萬4
: : 2016年薪水調薪2萬6
: : 2017年薪水調薪2萬8
: : 2018年薪水調薪3萬
: : 2014年~現今都是同間公司
: : 對於我來說我至少每年薪水都有加給
: : 以我大學科系對工作上並沒有優勢
: : 33歲時的我對於調整到最後3萬
: : 我認為薪資及採購行情也就差不多到此
: : 2018年開始步入婚姻,生子
: : 2019年做完月子回來,因公司暫時職務上的異動
: : 短暫接觸了4個月財務後,又回到業助
: : 2020年從業助再次回到財務,工作量加倍狀況之下跟公司談薪,下個月調整3萬3
: : 請問30歲左右版友們,請問薪資大約都多少上才正常呢?
: : 或是小孩約1~2歲的職業媽媽,能接受的薪資會約多少?
: 看來我的年紀跟你差不多,我是私立大學理工五年一貫碩士畢業。
: 第一份工作龜山的園區半導體工廠上班
: 45K保15個月 再加上加班費 還有分紅
: 以上是述說我是學歷失敗者,學測不到50分的等級,求學都在抽菸打撞球,都可以這樣了
: 。
: 經過我十年多來的社會觀察
: 會領底薪的原因
: 1.在都會區辦公大樓上班,享受市中心生活。
: 2.慣於舒適圈,排斥勞動力工作。
: 3.一成不變,不願意改變。
--
小妹不到三十,學歷只有私立五專畢業,從事非本科系工作,地點在做功德的台南。
2020我的年薪是72萬(非業務工作,非科技業,非軟體或系統或機電工程師)
我還記得四年前(2016年)我曾經發文(非本版)問過我的工作的薪水值不值得
當時2016年 我的薪水是24k(扣勞健保實領)
四年前,當初回推文的人全部都告訴我不值得,不要繼續從事此行業。
但我看到前景,看到往後十年我的職業生活,所以我選擇忍耐當時的低薪。
我的本科系是牙體技術師,我也考過高考,通過國家考試後當年老闆開給我的薪水是三萬元
責任制無加班費每天工時超過12小時。
當時有一個帶我的老師傅,沒意外我這輩子都不會忘記他所說的話。
2015年我考取牙體技術師時。
老師傅語重心長的說:你看看你的長輩跟上司,等你坐上那個位置,那就是你未來十年的
樣子。
我畢業後做牙體技術師約半年就毅然決然不從事本科系工作。
我不希望我未來十年每天工時超過12小時,看著公司的大家沒有時間休假,
小孩出生沒時間照顧,小孩從產假請完開始就落到保母或家人手中。
當初來到台南一切從零開始。
我來到台南時找了一份工安的工作,非本科系無經驗一個月的薪水只有24K
隨著考過執照跟經驗提升,我終於來到30K天花板。
當時我曾經發過文詢問這個職業的前景,大家都說死豬價沒前景,證照越來越難考,
趁年輕趕快轉換跑道,可是我什麼都不會怎麼轉換跑道?
好死不死我的同伴(監工)說要離職,我當下馬上決定我要當監工
可是我不是本科系,我不讀土木工程,我不懂機電,我甚至連什麼叫做碟閥都不知道。
但我知道如果我不轉職,我一輩子都只能領30-35K
當年我們監工提離職時,我就自告奮勇跟公司提出讓我試試看當監工。
一開始薪水低沒關係,但如果我真的不適合,他們再請人也可以。
就這樣開啟了我監工的生涯。
2017年我接監工時,所有跟我們配合的業主都下巴掉在地上
大家說:你要當監工?你明天就離職了吧?
:你當監工做不到兩個月就受不了了
:你當監工被幹樵就飽了
:你有辦法應付師傅嗎?
:這種管路這麼複雜你會看嗎?我看你連管徑都不會看吧!
隨著時間過去,我從每天被罵,到現在每天翹著腳看工班施工。
從每天被三字經問候祖宗,到現在大家平起平坐。
從每天被質疑看管路的能力,到現在沒人質疑我的能力。
從每天為了調度工作跟工安吵架,到現在跟工安一起翹腳喝咖啡。
我不是要炫耀我的職業經歷,我只想說,
你想領多少薪水就要付出多少努力,出社會之後的每個人都是一張白紙。
你如果安於三萬元的薪水,然後望著45K興嘆,這樣你的薪水永遠都只有30K。
我當監工在工地看過各種形形色色的人,
雖然我出社會沒幾年,但我這幾年的觀察下來
薪水一成不變的人都有以下的特點:
1.先這樣就夠了/這樣就好/再說
2.沒有規劃未來的能力/對未來沒有期許
3.害怕變動/不能接受新的事物/總是認為現在比較好
4.無論做什麼都先否定自己/這太難了我不行/別人總是比我強/這樣一定會失敗
薪水總是三級跳的人都有以下特點:
1.先做再說/失敗就再檢討
2.會規劃自己未來需要達到多少標/會觀察週遭事物對未來有成見
3.總想嘗試新事物/即使變動也不會焦躁不安/認為要賺錢就要放眼未來
4.做什麼總是先評估自己達不到的會想辦法達到/不會否定自己的能力
我想問現在在看這篇文章的你屬於那一種人?
我有同事單親的/單薪的/家庭狀況複雜的
薪水都領得比你高,年紀也比你輕。
但大家都要忍受在大太陽底下工作,不能在辦公室吹冷氣。
要忍受每天在現場被工班幹樵,在現場被業主刁難,
準備兩三個月的案子被長官大手一揮馬上回絕。
要忍受現場的噪音,高溫度,高壓力,灰塵,師傅的煙味,檳榔味,師傅的脾氣。
以前我還沒出社會的時候,很羨慕醫師工程師老師(我表姐表哥)
我一直以為書讀的好,就可以翹著腳工作。
但書社會這麼多年我才發現,書讀的好,只是一張讓你入場的門票而已。
醫師也要忍受各種高壓跟病患的情緒,
工程師也要忍受輪班爆肝被上司幹飛被廠商衝康的壓力。
老師要應付一堆屁孩還有恐龍家長,還有教師評鑑,下班也要準備資料。
出社會我才知道,當年的學歷只是一張邀請你進入那個領域的入場券。
當年的學歷並不是無壓力的高薪保證書。
這個社會上有很多沒有學歷的人(非本科)
但他們都能忍受別人不能忍受的事。
你呢?
※ 引述《VVVV55555 (東興烏鴉-小妹)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《coucouhoho (皓皓)》之銘言:
: : 在其它板上不巧提到目前35歲領3萬這件事
: : 其他版友不少聲音認為這是一件見不得人的事情需要我做個檢討
: : 一直以來我周遭同學,雖然不同行業也和我領差不多薪水
: : 所以對於這問題來說,真的是如此嗎?
: : 學歷背景:
: : 私立高中資處科
: : 私立大學日文系
: : 一畢業碰到2007年金融海嘯
: : 沒經驗之外也沒有工作機會
: : 2008年碰上政府幫忙釋放職缺契約行政助理,才終於有工作經驗
: : 2009年走入漫長5年教育訓練人員 薪資約2萬2~2萬4
: : 做了5年體會到這教育訓練也不會在往上升的機會,小公司訓練一人身兼多職。
: : 雖做了5年,薪水從2萬4也調漲到2萬6~2萬7。
: : 2014年辭職嘗試從事業助 薪水整個又回到底層2萬2左右
: : 2015年業助接觸到採購 薪水調整到2萬4
: : 2016年薪水調薪2萬6
: : 2017年薪水調薪2萬8
: : 2018年薪水調薪3萬
: : 2014年~現今都是同間公司
: : 對於我來說我至少每年薪水都有加給
: : 以我大學科系對工作上並沒有優勢
: : 33歲時的我對於調整到最後3萬
: : 我認為薪資及採購行情也就差不多到此
: : 2018年開始步入婚姻,生子
: : 2019年做完月子回來,因公司暫時職務上的異動
: : 短暫接觸了4個月財務後,又回到業助
: : 2020年從業助再次回到財務,工作量加倍狀況之下跟公司談薪,下個月調整3萬3
: : 請問30歲左右版友們,請問薪資大約都多少上才正常呢?
: : 或是小孩約1~2歲的職業媽媽,能接受的薪資會約多少?
: 看來我的年紀跟你差不多,我是私立大學理工五年一貫碩士畢業。
: 第一份工作龜山的園區半導體工廠上班
: 45K保15個月 再加上加班費 還有分紅
: 以上是述說我是學歷失敗者,學測不到50分的等級,求學都在抽菸打撞球,都可以這樣了
: 。
: 經過我十年多來的社會觀察
: 會領底薪的原因
: 1.在都會區辦公大樓上班,享受市中心生活。
: 2.慣於舒適圈,排斥勞動力工作。
: 3.一成不變,不願意改變。
--
All Comments

By Tracy
at 2020-07-22T03:15
at 2020-07-22T03:15

By Lauren
at 2020-07-24T06:53
at 2020-07-24T06:53

By Ursula
at 2020-07-28T19:07
at 2020-07-28T19:07

By Todd Johnson
at 2020-07-29T10:37
at 2020-07-29T10:37
己的話,很多時候我是不想忍耐的。我也是高學歷,沒有什
麼工作是沒有壓力又可以高報酬的。

By Jacob
at 2020-07-30T06:53
at 2020-07-30T06:53
活品質也同等重要,現在已經不是單純只看薪水的時代
了

By Donna
at 2020-07-31T23:12
at 2020-07-31T23:12

By Carolina Franco
at 2020-08-05T10:38
at 2020-08-05T10:38

By Irma
at 2020-08-09T23:53
at 2020-08-09T23:53

By Christine
at 2020-08-13T03:59
at 2020-08-13T03:59
去外面接30分鐘的電話才回桌,一問剛29分鐘都是在被客戶幹

By Poppy
at 2020-08-17T18:05
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By Poppy
at 2020-08-21T16:03
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By Yedda
at 2020-08-26T15:54
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By Rachel
at 2020-08-28T18:21
at 2020-08-28T18:21

By Donna
at 2020-08-31T09:59
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By Thomas
at 2020-09-03T20:06
at 2020-09-03T20:06
過程和一般學生比起來,已經經過壓力的洗禮,因此普遍上
來說比起一般畢業生更能處理壓力。

By Caitlin
at 2020-09-04T16:07
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By Puput
at 2020-09-08T12:36
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By Steve
at 2020-09-10T00:52
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By Zanna
at 2020-09-10T09:58
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By Yedda
at 2020-09-12T08:53
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By Robert
at 2020-09-13T01:26
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By Freda
at 2020-09-14T07:49
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By Harry
at 2020-09-18T06:43
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By Hardy
at 2020-09-19T20:19
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By Victoria
at 2020-09-19T23:34
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By Gary
at 2020-09-21T12:15
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By Liam
at 2020-09-25T03:25
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By Mary
at 2020-09-26T14:47
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By Bennie
at 2020-10-01T12:44
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By Faithe
at 2020-10-03T10:55
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By Skylar Davis
at 2020-10-04T04:22
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By Jake
at 2020-10-04T08:08
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By Linda
at 2020-10-08T14:36
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By Gilbert
at 2020-10-13T10:45
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By Frederic
at 2020-10-17T15:39
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By Jessica
at 2020-10-18T15:14
at 2020-10-18T15:14
莫名奇妙的三級跳,30k 37k 53k?

By Tom
at 2020-10-19T22:13
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By Brianna
at 2020-10-21T10:05
at 2020-10-21T10:05
抵抗意外風險能力,我推回來

By Connor
at 2020-10-25T08:04
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By Erin
at 2020-10-30T02:13
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By Kyle
at 2020-11-01T11:13
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By Blanche
at 2020-11-03T08:51
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By Erin
at 2020-11-03T10:19
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By Yuri
at 2020-11-04T09:39
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By Eden
at 2020-11-09T07:25
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By Hazel
at 2020-11-13T06:57
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By Ursula
at 2020-11-14T09:43
at 2020-11-14T09:43
就是那麼低
然後最後投胎比選擇更重要…富二代比我們這些負二代
少背學貸車貸房貸爽多了…

By Sarah
at 2020-11-19T04:17
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By Jack
at 2020-11-23T16:41
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By Agnes
at 2020-11-28T06:42
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By Franklin
at 2020-12-02T07:23
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By James
at 2020-12-07T04:32
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By Noah
at 2020-12-07T23:20
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By Cara
at 2020-12-10T14:29
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By Agatha
at 2020-12-15T00:52
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By Madame
at 2020-12-17T04:49
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By Poppy
at 2020-12-17T10:59
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By Edward Lewis
at 2020-12-17T20:32
at 2020-12-17T20:32

By Hedy
at 2020-12-21T12:53
at 2020-12-21T12:53
落後的人出社會就要更辛苦的才能追得上

By Jacky
at 2020-12-21T20:32
at 2020-12-21T20:32

By Frederica
at 2020-12-26T10:43
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By Franklin
at 2020-12-29T21:39
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By Vanessa
at 2020-12-31T10:57
at 2020-12-31T10:57
實際上機會就是少 好的機會就是連10%都沒有 甚至<2%

By Isabella
at 2021-01-04T11:36
at 2021-01-04T11:36

By Edwina
at 2021-01-08T11:01
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By Kumar
at 2021-01-10T05:28
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By Bennie
at 2021-01-12T08:05
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By Christine
at 2021-01-13T10:03
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By Sarah
at 2021-01-17T18:56
at 2021-01-17T18:56
了~

By Callum
at 2021-01-19T00:02
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By Dorothy
at 2021-01-21T12:47
at 2021-01-21T12:47

By Barb Cronin
at 2021-01-23T10:54
at 2021-01-23T10:54

By Jessica
at 2021-01-28T01:37
at 2021-01-28T01:37

By Candice
at 2021-01-28T19:46
at 2021-01-28T19:46
當年跳出來之後 看到電影 感觸更深

By Vanessa
at 2021-02-01T04:46
at 2021-02-01T04:46
到現在我除了聊專業聊技術 現場不服我一張嘴 我也是給
他直接走現場 "來 就這樣做" 看你服是不服

By Wallis
at 2021-02-04T11:06
at 2021-02-04T11:06

By Andy
at 2021-02-04T21:47
at 2021-02-04T21:47
而是想著要怎樣才能穩穩的每幾年幫自己跳一階

By Victoria
at 2021-02-05T16:25
at 2021-02-05T16:25
工作除了努力還包含很多。當然你的心態很好,祝福你

By Lauren
at 2021-02-09T17:35
at 2021-02-09T17:35

By Ula
at 2021-02-12T09:14
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By Ina
at 2021-02-14T14:38
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By James
at 2021-02-18T07:16
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By Ula
at 2021-02-18T23:43
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By Skylar Davis
at 2021-02-21T17:08
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By Noah
at 2021-02-23T13:47
at 2021-02-23T13:47

By Gilbert
at 2021-02-25T03:36
at 2021-02-25T03:36

By Jessica
at 2021-02-28T19:21
at 2021-02-28T19:21

By Anonymous
at 2021-03-04T18:17
at 2021-03-04T18:17

By Liam
at 2021-03-05T03:25
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By Michael
at 2021-03-09T10:19
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By Caitlin
at 2021-03-12T17:26
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By Lauren
at 2021-03-15T09:03
at 2021-03-15T09:03

By Gilbert
at 2021-03-18T04:19
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By Brianna
at 2021-03-22T06:07
at 2021-03-22T06:07

By Yuri
at 2021-03-26T16:38
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By Caitlin
at 2021-03-29T03:51
at 2021-03-29T03:51

By Delia
at 2021-04-02T18:43
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By Megan
at 2021-04-03T11:59
at 2021-04-03T11:59

By Todd Johnson
at 2021-04-04T16:08
at 2021-04-04T16:08

By Zenobia
at 2021-04-05T01:46
at 2021-04-05T01:46

By Delia
at 2021-04-06T03:19
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By Susan
at 2021-04-10T14:44
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By Eden
at 2021-04-11T10:16
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By Ivy
at 2021-04-15T06:33
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By Anonymous
at 2021-04-18T17:24
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By Rachel
at 2021-04-19T20:35
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By Christine
at 2021-04-20T08:16
at 2021-04-20T08:16

By Emily
at 2021-04-21T08:27
at 2021-04-21T08:27
魯蛇就是有時間上網吸收很多新知跟觀念,然後告訴大家

By Delia
at 2021-04-22T20:54
at 2021-04-22T20:54
好啦,社會是需要低端人口去支稱的,還是感謝理由魯蛇們
,沒有你們的努力偷懶上面的人也不會好過

By Mason
at 2021-04-26T13:33
at 2021-04-26T13:33

By Olga
at 2021-04-27T00:47
at 2021-04-27T00:47

By Steve
at 2021-04-29T14:47
at 2021-04-29T14:47

By Zora
at 2021-05-01T23:19
at 2021-05-01T23:19
北卻不思進取,不承認自己就是廢,自己就是導致自己原
地踏步的原因,覺得別人就是有天賦有機會。原po一直努
力在幫自己成長,而且也成長很多,結果居然還有人只會
說「你這也不算成功」,人家重點是說他自己很成功嗎?

By Mason
at 2021-05-05T04:11
at 2021-05-05T04:11

By Daph Bay
at 2021-05-05T09:43
at 2021-05-05T09:43
要加班,環境真的不好也有危險性還要到處跑,有家庭的人
很麻煩,實在不是長久的職業

By Frederica
at 2021-05-06T06:35
at 2021-05-06T06:35

By Ula
at 2021-05-06T08:36
at 2021-05-06T08:36

By Hamiltion
at 2021-05-08T13:34
at 2021-05-08T13:34

By Yedda
at 2021-05-11T09:49
at 2021-05-11T09:49

By Robert
at 2021-05-11T23:42
at 2021-05-11T23:42

By Heather
at 2021-05-15T18:55
at 2021-05-15T18:55

By Carol
at 2021-05-18T17:09
at 2021-05-18T17:09
第二份起薪25k比第一份離開時少了幾千

By Aaliyah
at 2021-05-21T11:58
at 2021-05-21T11:58

By Gary
at 2021-05-26T10:50
at 2021-05-26T10:50

By Lily
at 2021-05-31T09:37
at 2021-05-31T09:37

By Ursula
at 2021-06-05T08:06
at 2021-06-05T08:06

By Ida
at 2021-06-05T19:46
at 2021-06-05T19:46

By Dinah
at 2021-06-06T16:11
at 2021-06-06T16:11
而是你有沒有努力而不是在找藉口,

By Enid
at 2021-06-08T18:22
at 2021-06-08T18:22

By Dinah
at 2021-06-11T21:03
at 2021-06-11T21:03

By Freda
at 2021-06-14T14:20
at 2021-06-14T14:20

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-06-15T17:47
at 2021-06-15T17:47

By Genevieve
at 2021-06-17T17:57
at 2021-06-17T17:57

By Candice
at 2021-06-22T16:53
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By Genevieve
at 2021-06-23T23:28
at 2021-06-23T23:28

By Rosalind
at 2021-06-26T12:33
at 2021-06-26T12:33

By Cara
at 2021-06-29T14:35
at 2021-06-29T14:35

By Belly
at 2021-07-02T08:42
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By Mary
at 2021-07-04T15:13
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By Elvira
at 2021-07-08T07:27
at 2021-07-08T07:27

By Rae
at 2021-07-09T00:21
at 2021-07-09T00:21
的根本搞不清楚狀況

By Zanna
at 2021-07-12T02:44
at 2021-07-12T02:44

By Rachel
at 2021-07-13T15:41
at 2021-07-13T15:41

By Ina
at 2021-07-14T23:46
at 2021-07-14T23:46
https://youtu.be/179wonYheLs?t=1900

By Skylar Davis
at 2021-07-15T22:52
at 2021-07-15T22:52

By Olive
at 2021-07-16T04:14
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By Victoria
at 2021-07-16T16:13
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By Ula
at 2021-07-21T05:04
at 2021-07-21T05:04

By Catherine
at 2021-07-22T06:33
at 2021-07-22T06:33
o的精神

By Noah
at 2021-07-26T13:56
at 2021-07-26T13:56

By James
at 2021-07-30T16:22
at 2021-07-30T16:22

By Michael
at 2021-08-04T10:28
at 2021-08-04T10:28

By Sierra Rose
at 2021-08-07T04:18
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By Yuri
at 2021-08-09T19:36
at 2021-08-09T19:36
畢竟成功理論這種東西就是一種倖存者法則

By Valerie
at 2021-08-10T13:28
at 2021-08-10T13:28
,想辦法提高薪資

By Xanthe
at 2021-08-14T18:46
at 2021-08-14T18:46

By Jessica
at 2021-08-16T23:59
at 2021-08-16T23:59

By Dorothy
at 2021-08-19T15:44
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By Kyle
at 2021-08-24T03:41
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By Dorothy
at 2021-08-24T09:46
at 2021-08-24T09:46
太武斷了

By Odelette
at 2021-08-27T20:13
at 2021-08-27T20:13
所以我都直接這樣嗆人 70低收真是不努力呀

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-08-30T13:01
at 2021-08-30T13:01

By Eden
at 2021-08-31T03:38
at 2021-08-31T03:38

By Damian
at 2021-09-04T22:03
at 2021-09-04T22:03
/會觀察週遭事物對未來有成見,總想嘗試新事物/認為要
賺錢就要放眼未來,但她現在還在唸研究所,還是每個月
跟父母拿房租費、生活費有的沒的,月中就可以把生活費

By Callum
at 2021-09-08T13:26
at 2021-09-08T13:26

By Margaret
at 2021-09-10T14:07
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By Carolina Franco
at 2021-09-15T02:45
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By Charlie
at 2021-09-19T18:28
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By Una
at 2021-09-23T02:09
at 2021-09-23T02:09

By Skylar Davis
at 2021-09-27T11:00
at 2021-09-27T11:00
還是你的工作就是在八卦版噓文領薪水XD

By Zenobia
at 2021-09-29T14:04
at 2021-09-29T14:04
家屬走向偏方治療的時候....

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-10-01T21:29
at 2021-10-01T21:29

By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-10-05T05:42
at 2021-10-05T05:42

By Charlotte
at 2021-10-09T09:32
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By Doris
at 2021-10-14T02:23
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By Genevieve
at 2021-10-14T21:13
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-10-15T00:05
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By Steve
at 2021-10-18T02:51
at 2021-10-18T02:51

By Eartha
at 2021-10-19T10:36
at 2021-10-19T10:36
心 不是貶義但看到工安天花板三萬那邊再看到你說跟工安吵
架 有一種你好像覺得監工地位比工安高的感覺(也可能是我

By Zora
at 2021-10-22T13:22
at 2021-10-22T13:22
有自己底線 你的上進很好 但有時不必太有鋒芒

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-10-25T17:00
at 2021-10-25T17:00

By Jessica
at 2021-10-27T03:45
at 2021-10-27T03:45

By Lydia
at 2021-10-31T16:53
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By Quanna
at 2021-11-01T09:49
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By Robert
at 2021-11-06T09:41
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By Kristin
at 2021-11-10T11:53
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By Kumar
at 2021-11-12T01:20
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By Anthony
at 2021-11-13T04:41
at 2021-11-13T04:41
的幻想,好朋友

By Barb Cronin
at 2021-11-17T14:08
at 2021-11-17T14:08

By Charlotte
at 2021-11-21T09:34
at 2021-11-21T09:34

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-11-25T08:29
at 2021-11-25T08:29
DDDD

By Frederic
at 2021-11-25T20:13
at 2021-11-25T20:13

By Agnes
at 2021-11-28T21:50
at 2021-11-28T21:50
樣記得去看醫生好嗎XD 第一次看到有人用假資料唬人
還要求別人肛門搾甘蔗真的搞笑XDD

By Cara
at 2021-12-02T14:09
at 2021-12-02T14:09
剛剛好適合你肚子好痛XDD

By Elvira
at 2021-12-04T23:21
at 2021-12-04T23:21

By Charlie
at 2021-12-06T20:48
at 2021-12-06T20:48

By Dora
at 2021-12-08T20:46
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By Steve
at 2021-12-11T19:53
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By Jake
at 2021-12-12T13:03
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By Jessica
at 2021-12-13T22:31
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By Liam
at 2021-12-17T02:53
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By Joe
at 2021-12-17T10:38
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By Brianna
at 2021-12-21T20:22
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By Charlie
at 2021-12-23T09:33
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By Damian
at 2021-12-25T01:30
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By Hazel
at 2021-12-28T08:52
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By Valerie
at 2022-01-01T14:15
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By Frederic
at 2022-01-06T13:45
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By Odelette
at 2022-01-07T20:56
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By Jacky
at 2022-01-11T17:57
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By Sandy
at 2022-01-14T00:49
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By Yedda
at 2022-01-18T07:36
at 2022-01-18T07:36
楚,太慘唉

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-01-21T23:48
at 2022-01-21T23:48
交換我的假資料啊精神患者

By Oliver
at 2022-01-26T11:50
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By Ida
at 2022-01-28T02:34
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By Necoo
at 2022-01-29T08:52
at 2022-01-29T08:52
要求別人等價交換肛門榨甘蔗,腦子還好使嗎QQ

By Lauren
at 2022-01-30T10:54
at 2022-01-30T10:54

By Sandy
at 2022-02-02T13:07
at 2022-02-02T13:07

By Joe
at 2022-02-03T05:26
at 2022-02-03T05:26
接去吉我把三聯單貼出來後我們在法院再談適法性,
等你喔^^

By Emma
at 2022-02-05T21:54
at 2022-02-05T21:54

By Zenobia
at 2022-02-07T10:57
at 2022-02-07T10:57

By Eartha
at 2022-02-08T04:39
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By Doris
at 2022-02-09T20:52
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By Jessica
at 2022-02-12T08:24
at 2022-02-12T08:24
D

By Iris
at 2022-02-13T09:39
at 2022-02-13T09:39
了sky先生QQ

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-02-16T09:28
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By Mia
at 2022-02-18T18:18
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By Ula
at 2022-02-23T15:29
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By Madame
at 2022-02-26T10:16
at 2022-02-26T10:16
爾反爾的精神分裂患者,我真的真的好怕喔QQ

By Tom
at 2022-02-26T18:01
at 2022-02-26T18:01

By Ingrid
at 2022-03-02T11:23
at 2022-03-02T11:23
又被洗,乖乖喔skyyoyo^^

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-03-03T02:05
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By Barb Cronin
at 2022-03-03T09:38
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By Odelette
at 2022-03-03T17:46
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By Dinah
at 2022-03-03T20:39
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By Selena
at 2022-03-04T05:51
at 2022-03-04T05:51
資證據啦,快點,嗨呀庫等你喔嘴砲仔XDD

By Callum
at 2022-03-07T13:20
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By Quintina
at 2022-03-09T09:21
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By Aaliyah
at 2022-03-12T22:22
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By Susan
at 2022-03-13T01:49
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By Ophelia
at 2022-03-15T07:05
at 2022-03-15T07:05
笑噴XDD

By Andrew
at 2022-03-15T10:44
at 2022-03-15T10:44
使用電腦軟體的人都貼得出來的東西然後被洗臉,之
後又說要別人榨甘蔗才要貼出正式證明,腦袋真的不好

By Ophelia
at 2022-03-16T15:30
at 2022-03-16T15:30

By Valerie
at 2022-03-17T19:21
at 2022-03-17T19:21

By Christine
at 2022-03-21T17:15
at 2022-03-21T17:15

By Xanthe
at 2022-03-24T21:24
at 2022-03-24T21:24
法性叫你來吉然後說自己好忙,也是啦忙著嘴砲在八
卦版推噓文就有錢領真的好忙好忙XDD

By Xanthe
at 2022-03-29T11:49
at 2022-03-29T11:49

By Jake
at 2022-03-29T18:31
at 2022-03-29T18:31

By Hedda
at 2022-04-03T12:06
at 2022-04-03T12:06

By Liam
at 2022-04-06T09:40
at 2022-04-06T09:40

By Rosalind
at 2022-04-06T11:03
at 2022-04-06T11:03
期待我們在法院上對陣的那一天嘴砲仔XDD

By Rachel
at 2022-04-07T19:32
at 2022-04-07T19:32

By Ingrid
at 2022-04-09T23:16
at 2022-04-09T23:16
哪還在這邊跟我543,就是只領23k才會在那邊說什麼榨

By Mary
at 2022-04-10T19:43
at 2022-04-10T19:43

By Ina
at 2022-04-14T21:09
at 2022-04-14T21:09

By Kumar
at 2022-04-18T05:23
at 2022-04-18T05:23

By Kumar
at 2022-04-20T16:05
at 2022-04-20T16:05

By Jake
at 2022-04-24T03:33
at 2022-04-24T03:33
播榨甘蔗,你來幫我錄,快貼出來吧嘴砲仔

By Quanna
at 2022-04-27T08:22
at 2022-04-27T08:22

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-04-29T08:28
at 2022-04-29T08:28

By Anthony
at 2022-05-01T08:40
at 2022-05-01T08:40

By Zanna
at 2022-05-02T11:45
at 2022-05-02T11:45
不然讓人家久等了就不好囉

By Olive
at 2022-05-05T12:15
at 2022-05-05T12:15
還講什麼說服

By Joe
at 2022-05-09T03:11
at 2022-05-09T03:11
讓你看看榨甘蔗表演啊這樣不是達成你的期旺,有這

By Harry
at 2022-05-10T13:46
at 2022-05-10T13:46

By Gilbert
at 2022-05-14T19:57
at 2022-05-14T19:57

By Dorothy
at 2022-05-17T14:58
at 2022-05-17T14:58
單位主管拍都可以
Y/N?

By Michael
at 2022-05-21T09:34
at 2022-05-21T09:34

By Frederic
at 2022-05-22T16:34
at 2022-05-22T16:34

By Ethan
at 2022-05-24T15:41
at 2022-05-24T15:41
錯了你還要指定人,屁話嘴砲幻想哥能不能給力點QQ

By Zenobia
at 2022-05-29T03:40
at 2022-05-29T03:40
,你以為你誰可以一直要求,幻想哥可憐

By Charlotte
at 2022-05-31T12:09
at 2022-05-31T12:09

By Necoo
at 2022-06-02T13:08
at 2022-06-02T13:08
憐

By Noah
at 2022-06-04T13:28
at 2022-06-04T13:28

By William
at 2022-06-07T10:08
at 2022-06-07T10:08
我的要求,你到底要不要貼啊屁話真多==
看,又跳針我怕,自己在那邊顧左右而言他不敢貼,真
的笑噴,幻想成這樣真的有點可憐QQ

By Poppy
at 2022-06-08T07:45
at 2022-06-08T07:45

By Agatha
at 2022-06-08T15:41
at 2022-06-08T15:41

By Thomas
at 2022-06-10T01:00
at 2022-06-10T01:00

By Damian
at 2022-06-11T02:47
at 2022-06-11T02:47

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-06-13T01:00
at 2022-06-13T01:00

By Quintina
at 2022-06-17T10:52
at 2022-06-17T10:52

By Ethan
at 2022-06-19T05:06
at 2022-06-19T05:06
硬給一堆條件,這樣別人就會知難而退,然後就只能
說別人崩潰別人好怕怕QQ

By Sarah
at 2022-06-22T13:24
at 2022-06-22T13:24

By Megan
at 2022-06-23T02:19
at 2022-06-23T02:19
天去高雄拍 到底是誰又怕又崩潰又加條件?

By Callum
at 2022-06-26T02:08
at 2022-06-26T02:08
這麼難為的要求了我請你現場觀看有很困難嗎嘴砲哥^^
?

By Frederic
at 2022-06-29T03:25
at 2022-06-29T03:25
攻擊,沒看過這麼搞笑的XDD

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-07-02T18:14
at 2022-07-02T18:14

By Kelly
at 2022-07-05T07:06
at 2022-07-05T07:06

By Carol
at 2022-07-10T01:38
at 2022-07-10T01:38

By John
at 2022-07-14T21:29
at 2022-07-14T21:29
自己理虧和事實,真的太厲害了yoyo佩服

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-07-19T06:43
at 2022-07-19T06:43
我的時間

By Olga
at 2022-07-22T15:25
at 2022-07-22T15:25

By Olivia
at 2022-07-24T09:59
at 2022-07-24T09:59

By Gilbert
at 2022-07-28T16:58
at 2022-07-28T16:58

By Frederica
at 2022-07-31T11:42
at 2022-07-31T11:42
你貼,你來直播我榨甘蔗,怕?

By Franklin
at 2022-08-04T13:18
at 2022-08-04T13:18

By Audriana
at 2022-08-04T14:20
at 2022-08-04T14:20

By Sandy
at 2022-08-05T17:51
at 2022-08-05T17:51

By Lucy
at 2022-08-07T18:39
at 2022-08-07T18:39

By Erin
at 2022-08-11T18:01
at 2022-08-11T18:01

By Edith
at 2022-08-16T06:29
at 2022-08-16T06:29

By Heather
at 2022-08-19T15:22
at 2022-08-19T15:22

By Barb Cronin
at 2022-08-21T16:14
at 2022-08-21T16:14

By Edith
at 2022-08-21T22:07
at 2022-08-21T22:07

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-08-22T22:45
at 2022-08-22T22:45
看上面這咖的邏輯是領23.7k正常還是237k正常

By Andrew
at 2022-08-24T09:30
at 2022-08-24T09:30
慘也是悲哀

By Puput
at 2022-08-28T21:49
at 2022-08-28T21:49

By Hazel
at 2022-08-31T13:45
at 2022-08-31T13:45

By Queena
at 2022-09-02T19:17
at 2022-09-02T19:17

By Rae
at 2022-09-06T03:51
at 2022-09-06T03:51
不會有什麼驚人之言結果還是一直刷重複字詞,真是
太讓人失望了...

By Irma
at 2022-09-08T10:57
at 2022-09-08T10:57
相對

By Doris
at 2022-09-11T19:04
at 2022-09-11T19:04

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-09-16T04:19
at 2022-09-16T04:19
止步於此

By Ophelia
at 2022-09-16T17:49
at 2022-09-16T17:49
怕就好

By Eden
at 2022-09-17T01:09
at 2022-09-17T01:09

By Kristin
at 2022-09-20T07:29
at 2022-09-20T07:29
,嗨呀庫快

By Daph Bay
at 2022-09-24T11:31
at 2022-09-24T11:31
k了乖

By Elvira
at 2022-09-28T12:45
at 2022-09-28T12:45

By William
at 2022-10-02T05:42
at 2022-10-02T05:42

By Doris
at 2022-10-04T13:07
at 2022-10-04T13:07

By Enid
at 2022-10-05T15:34
at 2022-10-05T15:34

By Ula
at 2022-10-08T20:16
at 2022-10-08T20:16

By Tom
at 2022-10-10T12:04
at 2022-10-10T12:04

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-10-14T17:11
at 2022-10-14T17:11

By Steve
at 2022-10-16T20:15
at 2022-10-16T20:15
很誠實

By Sierra Rose
at 2022-10-17T11:44
at 2022-10-17T11:44
砲仔壓在地上摩擦才舒服

By Isla
at 2022-10-22T05:50
at 2022-10-22T05:50

By Yuri
at 2022-10-25T16:27
at 2022-10-25T16:27

By Robert
at 2022-10-28T02:58
at 2022-10-28T02:58

By Hedda
at 2022-11-02T00:42
at 2022-11-02T00:42
樣出來搗蛋,搞到23.7k幻想仔身心俱疲也算壓在地上
摩擦了,真爽XD

By Audriana
at 2022-11-06T06:43
at 2022-11-06T06:43
所以我拿出進一步證據你要自己直播肛門榨甘蔗?怕?

By Charlotte
at 2022-11-09T16:36
at 2022-11-09T16:36
結果什麼東西都貼不出來,可憐幻想仔XD

By Hardy
at 2022-11-14T04:33
at 2022-11-14T04:33
XDD

By Lily
at 2022-11-17T01:20
at 2022-11-17T01:20

By Odelette
at 2022-11-17T04:29
at 2022-11-17T04:29

By Lauren
at 2022-11-22T03:24
at 2022-11-22T03:24
XDD

By Bennie
at 2022-11-24T02:24
at 2022-11-24T02:24
釋自己工作內容讓別人相信自己就是證明單的人,這
樣風向就會改變,結果你現在連證明單貼出來都辦不
到

By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-11-27T06:30
at 2022-11-27T06:30
到貼個證明屁話這麼多的

By Hamiltion
at 2022-12-01T20:46
at 2022-12-01T20:46
怕XDD

By Delia
at 2022-12-03T21:01
at 2022-12-03T21:01

By Ursula
at 2022-12-04T17:09
at 2022-12-04T17:09

By Odelette
at 2022-12-05T19:24
at 2022-12-05T19:24

By Carol
at 2022-12-08T16:45
at 2022-12-08T16:45
真的病的不清有點可憐,鞭小力一點
*輕

By Una
at 2022-12-11T05:31
at 2022-12-11T05:31

By Mary
at 2022-12-13T18:38
at 2022-12-13T18:38

By Ethan
at 2022-12-13T22:29
at 2022-12-13T22:29
看這個是23.7k幻想仔還是237k高薪人員

By Enid
at 2022-12-16T22:30
at 2022-12-16T22:30
我貼證據你自己直播肛門榨甘蔗OK?怕?不敢就是信了

By Wallis
at 2022-12-17T05:07
at 2022-12-17T05:07

By Audriana
at 2022-12-20T23:44
at 2022-12-20T23:44
各位看官快點出來把這唬爛幻想仔擊垮吧XD

By Anonymous
at 2022-12-23T22:59
at 2022-12-23T22:59

By Frederica
at 2022-12-28T16:03
at 2022-12-28T16:03

By Ingrid
at 2023-01-02T09:01
at 2023-01-02T09:01

By Isabella
at 2023-01-03T05:12
at 2023-01-03T05:12

By Liam
at 2023-01-07T04:15
at 2023-01-07T04:15
#1V5bFTZv (RESIT)

By Frederic
at 2023-01-10T16:34
at 2023-01-10T16:34

By Vanessa
at 2023-01-10T19:27
at 2023-01-10T19:27

By Isabella
at 2023-01-15T17:36
at 2023-01-15T17:36

By Anonymous
at 2023-01-20T14:10
at 2023-01-20T14:10

By Mason
at 2023-01-21T11:35
at 2023-01-21T11:35

By Blanche
at 2023-01-23T16:39
at 2023-01-23T16:39

By Liam
at 2023-01-26T03:19
at 2023-01-26T03:19

By Aaliyah
at 2023-01-29T09:46
at 2023-01-29T09:46
前提是你敢於嘗試

By Quanna
at 2023-01-31T11:51
at 2023-01-31T11:51

By Freda
at 2023-02-04T02:08
at 2023-02-04T02:08
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