所謂的責任制~~~ - 老師
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※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板]
作者: ILoveRiva (天下至柔莫若水) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [新聞] 台灣工時仍長 勞工團體力促新政府改革
時間: Sun May 4 13:47:42 2008
看完這一篇,心中感慨萬千。
我個人同時兼具勞工與雇主兩種身份,
周一至周五 白天在上班 晚上經營補教業
我自己還有搞某種散熱專利套件 雇兩個人 自己開生產
六日會去聯絡客戶跟帳款結算等
以我的立場,勞工的雇主的心酸,我都能體會
近年來,臺灣一般勞工的薪水 福利 工時 幾乎都是呈停滯的態勢
多數人都怪罪政府無能,事實上,以我自己的瞭解,
我的生產線在是開在新莊化成路和三俊街一帶,
和這一帶的大小老闆們接觸閒聊的心得是
對中小企業來說,根本就沒有希望政府來幫忙扶持,只要政府不惡搞廠商就好了.....
完全沒有對政府抱持希望過
有許多的中小企業主,在這幾年,其實是賺比以前大的....
為什麼不景氣還能賺得比以前大呢 ?
因為 人力銀行 的蹶起
近年來台灣薪資成長最大的元凶,
除了了全球化競爭 人材替代性流動,大陸磁吸效應,等因素外
人力銀行和資方串成一線,利用不景氣,要勞動者接受低薪高工時責任制,
動輒以 如果大家不賣命 公司倒了大家一起死 沒飯吃 之類的邏輯來洗腦
更重要的是 人力銀行有媒體的優勢
在廣播節目 電視節目 各大商業雜誌 報章 不停散播
諸如 : "日本人以公司為家的武士精神,讓日本興盛,值得求職者效法"
"想當千萬經理人,先以公司為家 !"
"黑手工廠的掘起,全賴員工與主帥一同將士用命"
"責任制以成為全球化潮流,優秀的你不可落於人後"
這些標題都可以簡化成一個簡單的結論 : 你要拼命加班,但沒有錢 !!
"日本人以公司為家的武士精神,讓日本興盛,值得求職者效法"
這個標題的背後,沒有講到日本大公司是終生雇用制,福利保障健全,
完全在不同的立足點上比較....
"想當千萬經理人,先以公司為家 !"
所以比爾蓋茲年輕時以公司為家過 ???
所以索羅斯巴肥特天天住公司 ???
"黑手工廠的掘起,全賴員工與主帥一同將士用命"
所以最後主帥分到巨額利潤,員工沒股份沒加班費 ? 爽到你甘苦到我 ?
"責任制以成為全球化潮流,優秀的你不可落於人後"
這個更好笑了,北歐那些強國的責任制,
是指:"工作完成可以先下班,作不完繼續作"
臺灣的責任制可以先作完先下班嗎 ?
臺灣的責任制應該正名為 : 加班沒錢制 才合乎他的本意
然後如果你反抗美其名為"責任制"的"加班沒錢制"
就會被污名化為中共同路人...喔不對講錯了,是污名化為 "草莓族"
相對於我爸那個時代 " 台灣夢 " 在現在這個世代的年輕人
已經漸漸失去了 "台灣夢" 的成功機會...
什麼是臺灣夢 ?
相對於American Dream,我來舉我爸當個例子...
我爸出身貧寒,弱冠之年,還只是一個建商跑腿的小工人...
平時就努力工作掙錢,但絕對不可能有那種要加班但沒加班費這種事發生
所以只有真的很忙的時候才會加班 (加班資方要付錢,所以不會沒事叫你亂加班)
所以大家下班後,比較上進的人,就有往上爬的機會...
像我爸就一路往上爬,念夜校,後來插大,最後考照上了就去當建築師
然後因為他又當過工頭,又有學歷,最後業界就愛不嗜手
這就是 "臺灣夢"
只要你肯努力肯拼,就有出人頭地的機會,哪怕你只是一個不起眼的工人
,只要下了班有時間可以進修,你就可以讓自己有成功的機會 !
但是呢
但是現在的資方串聯好人力銀行,用責任制讓你沒有下班時間進修,而且"沒有加班費"!
從經濟學角度來看,你的"機會成本"不只等於零,根本就是負的 !
因為你沒有錢,你的生活品質得不到改善;
但你也沒有時間,你沒有機會進修、你沒有機會在下班後建立自己的事業;
你沒有錢,也沒有時間,你什麼都沒有,就是nothing啦 !
更可悲的是,你若不接受這一切 " 加班沒錢制 " ,你就是爛草莓,沒前途,沒搞頭 !
試想,你什麼都沒有,會有未來嗎 ?
你沒有未來,但你的老闆和公司就會有大好未來 XD
在媒體大似宣揚不景氣 與其說宣揚 倒不如說是變相恐嚇你對岸勞工很便宜 之下
老闆順勢哭窮說公司經營困難,你不"加班沒錢制",公司就要倒了...
於是乎你的加班成本變成他的"利潤",所以他白天可以少請幾個人,
反正你白天跟晚上都會工作,一個人抵兩個人用,所以他賺更大了,
但你加班,你的錢沒變多,更慘的是你的技能跟智識沒得進修,
而慢慢跟不上新生代,最後你老了沒競爭力,
更難轉換跑道,然後原公司就更剝削你,甚至火掉你...
我身邊的老闆們,常常跟我說,花小錢上人力銀行刊廣告,真的很不錯...
最近這幾年來,卻造就了他們的業績其實跟以前都差不多,但卻因為媒體的影響,
讓他們"分到更多",因此"口袋更滿"....
我個人是不會這樣剝削我的員工和老師
我都會把接一個案子或學生的利潤成本透明跟他們講,問他們想不想接,
討論如果接了他們想分到多少,達成共識後就一起拼,員工就跟朋友一樣...
可惜我能力有限,能雇用的人只有個位數
不然真想好好照顧更多的勞工,讓大家的生活過得更美好...
※ 引述《CREA (十年的妳)》之銘言:
: 台灣工時仍長 勞工團體力促新政府改革
: (中央社記者汪淑芬台北四日電)
: 台灣工時於2000年做過重大調整,當時法定工時由每週四十八小時降為兩週
: 八十四小時,但因與其他先進國家相比仍過長,勞工團體希望能降到每週四十小
: 時以下,全國產業總工會更在五一勞動節時,主動呼籲即將上任的新政府團隊,
: 要積極改革工時。
: 全產總日前在五一勞動節慶祝大會上,提出包括縮短工時等訴求,總統當選
: 人馬英九雖未肯定承諾,但提到未來台灣產業發展不能靠長工時及低工資,讓勞
: 工團體對推動縮短工時更有信心。
: 全產總指出,目前台灣就業者年工時為2,170小時,雖排在韓國2,305小時之
: 後,但與墨西哥1,883小時、美國1,804小時及義大利1,800小時相比,仍高出許
: 多。
: 另從每週工時做比較,2006年台灣每週工時為41.6小時,遠高於德國38.2小
: 時、日本35.4小時、美國33.9小時、加拿大31.7小時,只比韓國44.2小時及新加
: 坡46.2小時低。
: 全產總認為,勞工都期待提升整體勞動條件,但過長的工時對健康與生活有
: 極不利影響,近幾年勞工界一直訴求將每週工時降到四十小時以下,就是希望勞
: 工能有充分的休息時間,追求工作以外更有品質的生活。
: 全產總指出,拚經濟是新政府團隊的首要目標,全產總支持政府拚經濟,但
: 也會力促新政府改革工時。
--
汝非農,焉知農無米之樂。
--
作者: ILoveRiva (天下至柔莫若水) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [新聞] 台灣工時仍長 勞工團體力促新政府改革
時間: Sun May 4 13:47:42 2008
看完這一篇,心中感慨萬千。
我個人同時兼具勞工與雇主兩種身份,
周一至周五 白天在上班 晚上經營補教業
我自己還有搞某種散熱專利套件 雇兩個人 自己開生產
六日會去聯絡客戶跟帳款結算等
以我的立場,勞工的雇主的心酸,我都能體會
近年來,臺灣一般勞工的薪水 福利 工時 幾乎都是呈停滯的態勢
多數人都怪罪政府無能,事實上,以我自己的瞭解,
我的生產線在是開在新莊化成路和三俊街一帶,
和這一帶的大小老闆們接觸閒聊的心得是
對中小企業來說,根本就沒有希望政府來幫忙扶持,只要政府不惡搞廠商就好了.....
完全沒有對政府抱持希望過
有許多的中小企業主,在這幾年,其實是賺比以前大的....
為什麼不景氣還能賺得比以前大呢 ?
因為 人力銀行 的蹶起
近年來台灣薪資成長最大的元凶,
除了了全球化競爭 人材替代性流動,大陸磁吸效應,等因素外
人力銀行和資方串成一線,利用不景氣,要勞動者接受低薪高工時責任制,
動輒以 如果大家不賣命 公司倒了大家一起死 沒飯吃 之類的邏輯來洗腦
更重要的是 人力銀行有媒體的優勢
在廣播節目 電視節目 各大商業雜誌 報章 不停散播
諸如 : "日本人以公司為家的武士精神,讓日本興盛,值得求職者效法"
"想當千萬經理人,先以公司為家 !"
"黑手工廠的掘起,全賴員工與主帥一同將士用命"
"責任制以成為全球化潮流,優秀的你不可落於人後"
這些標題都可以簡化成一個簡單的結論 : 你要拼命加班,但沒有錢 !!
"日本人以公司為家的武士精神,讓日本興盛,值得求職者效法"
這個標題的背後,沒有講到日本大公司是終生雇用制,福利保障健全,
完全在不同的立足點上比較....
"想當千萬經理人,先以公司為家 !"
所以比爾蓋茲年輕時以公司為家過 ???
所以索羅斯巴肥特天天住公司 ???
"黑手工廠的掘起,全賴員工與主帥一同將士用命"
所以最後主帥分到巨額利潤,員工沒股份沒加班費 ? 爽到你甘苦到我 ?
"責任制以成為全球化潮流,優秀的你不可落於人後"
這個更好笑了,北歐那些強國的責任制,
是指:"工作完成可以先下班,作不完繼續作"
臺灣的責任制可以先作完先下班嗎 ?
臺灣的責任制應該正名為 : 加班沒錢制 才合乎他的本意
然後如果你反抗美其名為"責任制"的"加班沒錢制"
就會被污名化為中共同路人...喔不對講錯了,是污名化為 "草莓族"
相對於我爸那個時代 " 台灣夢 " 在現在這個世代的年輕人
已經漸漸失去了 "台灣夢" 的成功機會...
什麼是臺灣夢 ?
相對於American Dream,我來舉我爸當個例子...
我爸出身貧寒,弱冠之年,還只是一個建商跑腿的小工人...
平時就努力工作掙錢,但絕對不可能有那種要加班但沒加班費這種事發生
所以只有真的很忙的時候才會加班 (加班資方要付錢,所以不會沒事叫你亂加班)
所以大家下班後,比較上進的人,就有往上爬的機會...
像我爸就一路往上爬,念夜校,後來插大,最後考照上了就去當建築師
然後因為他又當過工頭,又有學歷,最後業界就愛不嗜手
這就是 "臺灣夢"
只要你肯努力肯拼,就有出人頭地的機會,哪怕你只是一個不起眼的工人
,只要下了班有時間可以進修,你就可以讓自己有成功的機會 !
但是呢
但是現在的資方串聯好人力銀行,用責任制讓你沒有下班時間進修,而且"沒有加班費"!
從經濟學角度來看,你的"機會成本"不只等於零,根本就是負的 !
因為你沒有錢,你的生活品質得不到改善;
但你也沒有時間,你沒有機會進修、你沒有機會在下班後建立自己的事業;
你沒有錢,也沒有時間,你什麼都沒有,就是nothing啦 !
更可悲的是,你若不接受這一切 " 加班沒錢制 " ,你就是爛草莓,沒前途,沒搞頭 !
試想,你什麼都沒有,會有未來嗎 ?
你沒有未來,但你的老闆和公司就會有大好未來 XD
在媒體大似宣揚不景氣 與其說宣揚 倒不如說是變相恐嚇你對岸勞工很便宜 之下
老闆順勢哭窮說公司經營困難,你不"加班沒錢制",公司就要倒了...
於是乎你的加班成本變成他的"利潤",所以他白天可以少請幾個人,
反正你白天跟晚上都會工作,一個人抵兩個人用,所以他賺更大了,
但你加班,你的錢沒變多,更慘的是你的技能跟智識沒得進修,
而慢慢跟不上新生代,最後你老了沒競爭力,
更難轉換跑道,然後原公司就更剝削你,甚至火掉你...
我身邊的老闆們,常常跟我說,花小錢上人力銀行刊廣告,真的很不錯...
最近這幾年來,卻造就了他們的業績其實跟以前都差不多,但卻因為媒體的影響,
讓他們"分到更多",因此"口袋更滿"....
我個人是不會這樣剝削我的員工和老師
我都會把接一個案子或學生的利潤成本透明跟他們講,問他們想不想接,
討論如果接了他們想分到多少,達成共識後就一起拼,員工就跟朋友一樣...
可惜我能力有限,能雇用的人只有個位數
不然真想好好照顧更多的勞工,讓大家的生活過得更美好...
※ 引述《CREA (十年的妳)》之銘言:
: 台灣工時仍長 勞工團體力促新政府改革
: (中央社記者汪淑芬台北四日電)
: 台灣工時於2000年做過重大調整,當時法定工時由每週四十八小時降為兩週
: 八十四小時,但因與其他先進國家相比仍過長,勞工團體希望能降到每週四十小
: 時以下,全國產業總工會更在五一勞動節時,主動呼籲即將上任的新政府團隊,
: 要積極改革工時。
: 全產總日前在五一勞動節慶祝大會上,提出包括縮短工時等訴求,總統當選
: 人馬英九雖未肯定承諾,但提到未來台灣產業發展不能靠長工時及低工資,讓勞
: 工團體對推動縮短工時更有信心。
: 全產總指出,目前台灣就業者年工時為2,170小時,雖排在韓國2,305小時之
: 後,但與墨西哥1,883小時、美國1,804小時及義大利1,800小時相比,仍高出許
: 多。
: 另從每週工時做比較,2006年台灣每週工時為41.6小時,遠高於德國38.2小
: 時、日本35.4小時、美國33.9小時、加拿大31.7小時,只比韓國44.2小時及新加
: 坡46.2小時低。
: 全產總認為,勞工都期待提升整體勞動條件,但過長的工時對健康與生活有
: 極不利影響,近幾年勞工界一直訴求將每週工時降到四十小時以下,就是希望勞
: 工能有充分的休息時間,追求工作以外更有品質的生活。
: 全產總指出,拚經濟是新政府團隊的首要目標,全產總支持政府拚經濟,但
: 也會力促新政府改革工時。
--
汝非農,焉知農無米之樂。
--
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