「世上哪有這種事」賴正鎰籲修法禁止職業 - 薪水

By Hazel
at 2019-06-24T22:07
at 2019-06-24T22:07
Table of Contents
※ 引述《lovefion (愛愛貓)》之銘言:
: 只有八卦版反罷工嗎? 我看也未必
: 根據我這幾天在FB上看到的留言, 也是支持長榮佔多數
: 常聽見有人說, 公主是被慣出來的
: 我在想, 慣老闆大概也是這樣
: 反正大家都不能爭取自己的權益, 壓榨你也只是剛好而已
: 看到一堆揶揄的留言
: 什麼不爽不要做啦,
: 可以去五木賺啦,
: 我想, 我們距離歐美甚至南韓, 都還有很長的路要走
我看起來是長榮工會居於劣勢
不過八卦版這幾天一堆神奇的言論也讓我很驚訝
特別是昨天剛好強碰623反中媒遊行,我大概觀察到幾點原因:
一、無知又自私
很多酸民是完全不懂勞動法規的,甚至也沒在關注時事
例如:
說護理人員才最該罷工,但護理師只有公會沒有產業工會或職業工會
有企業工會的醫院,會員也沒到比例,永遠不可能罷工
工會跟長榮從2017年開始就談了二十次左右,到6月初投票就已經有示警可能會罷工
但民眾毫不關心、毫不在意,甚至有不少人說長榮最近機票降價要趕快去買(腦殘嗎?)
罵人爭取權益爭取加薪是自私貪婪?
那要空服員犧牲自己的權益被壓榨繼續服務你們,就不貪婪了嗎?
自己工作一兩年後向主管爭取加薪=正常;工會爭取集體加薪=死要錢?
另外還有人嘴民營公司就是要專制的...麻煩先去看一下近代管理學在研究什麼
參與式管理都多久了,是代工廠作業員做太久還是剛退伍?
歐美都有工會要求給薪假的天數提高了
以台灣酸民的標準,全世界有90%的工會運動都是貪婪
結果人家是先進大國,我們只能在這裡自high嘴他們經濟差
二、民主素養低落
看到一堆人挺同婚挺得很開心,然後反罷工,這種民主自助餐我看了也是笑笑
跟自己無關的事支持的特別用力,但跟自己息息相關而且有示範性效果的工會運動
卻一個個擺出資方嘴臉,某些人真的有搞懂什麼是民主嗎?
三、幻想自己有一天會當老闆
政治學有個理論叫「無知之幕」,簡單來講就是同理心
當你不知道自己在社會中的階級的時候,會傾向站在較低階級的立場思考
結果在台灣,真是不簡單,每個人骨子裡都有根深蒂固的老闆夢
每天幻想自己未來會當老闆,最常見的言論就是「以後誰敢創業」
阿勒,你連給薪水都不能符合勞基法,公司賺錢都不願意分享給員工
就算讓你當老闆也不會有什麼成就啦~台灣可以賺的黑心行業早就被老人佔滿啦~
四、什麼都要政府做
台灣人現在講到民族、國家的時候,特別激動
但說穿了就是「可以跟政府抗議的才會勇敢站出來」
我也不知道為什麼,也許是解嚴後被洗腦二三十年的「自己當頭家」
所以要求政府很會,像是基本工資、一例一休,要求資方就變成啞巴?
勞基法明明最低標準,結果台灣老闆什麼都是有達標就好
總統講一句「勞工要自立自強」被嘴三年,但其實他講的沒錯
歐美日韓,先進國家沒有人的工會運動比我們弱,連東南亞都屌打我們了
整天做老闆夢,什麼時候才認清現實?
但今天看完工會退讓的新聞,我看以後私人企業別想罷工了
大家就乖乖當奴隸,有點能力的想辦法去國外發展,比較實際一點
--
: 只有八卦版反罷工嗎? 我看也未必
: 根據我這幾天在FB上看到的留言, 也是支持長榮佔多數
: 常聽見有人說, 公主是被慣出來的
: 我在想, 慣老闆大概也是這樣
: 反正大家都不能爭取自己的權益, 壓榨你也只是剛好而已
: 看到一堆揶揄的留言
: 什麼不爽不要做啦,
: 可以去五木賺啦,
: 我想, 我們距離歐美甚至南韓, 都還有很長的路要走
我看起來是長榮工會居於劣勢
不過八卦版這幾天一堆神奇的言論也讓我很驚訝
特別是昨天剛好強碰623反中媒遊行,我大概觀察到幾點原因:
一、無知又自私
很多酸民是完全不懂勞動法規的,甚至也沒在關注時事
例如:
說護理人員才最該罷工,但護理師只有公會沒有產業工會或職業工會
有企業工會的醫院,會員也沒到比例,永遠不可能罷工
工會跟長榮從2017年開始就談了二十次左右,到6月初投票就已經有示警可能會罷工
但民眾毫不關心、毫不在意,甚至有不少人說長榮最近機票降價要趕快去買(腦殘嗎?)
罵人爭取權益爭取加薪是自私貪婪?
那要空服員犧牲自己的權益被壓榨繼續服務你們,就不貪婪了嗎?
自己工作一兩年後向主管爭取加薪=正常;工會爭取集體加薪=死要錢?
另外還有人嘴民營公司就是要專制的...麻煩先去看一下近代管理學在研究什麼
參與式管理都多久了,是代工廠作業員做太久還是剛退伍?
歐美都有工會要求給薪假的天數提高了
以台灣酸民的標準,全世界有90%的工會運動都是貪婪
結果人家是先進大國,我們只能在這裡自high嘴他們經濟差
二、民主素養低落
看到一堆人挺同婚挺得很開心,然後反罷工,這種民主自助餐我看了也是笑笑
跟自己無關的事支持的特別用力,但跟自己息息相關而且有示範性效果的工會運動
卻一個個擺出資方嘴臉,某些人真的有搞懂什麼是民主嗎?
三、幻想自己有一天會當老闆
政治學有個理論叫「無知之幕」,簡單來講就是同理心
當你不知道自己在社會中的階級的時候,會傾向站在較低階級的立場思考
結果在台灣,真是不簡單,每個人骨子裡都有根深蒂固的老闆夢
每天幻想自己未來會當老闆,最常見的言論就是「以後誰敢創業」
阿勒,你連給薪水都不能符合勞基法,公司賺錢都不願意分享給員工
就算讓你當老闆也不會有什麼成就啦~台灣可以賺的黑心行業早就被老人佔滿啦~
四、什麼都要政府做
台灣人現在講到民族、國家的時候,特別激動
但說穿了就是「可以跟政府抗議的才會勇敢站出來」
我也不知道為什麼,也許是解嚴後被洗腦二三十年的「自己當頭家」
所以要求政府很會,像是基本工資、一例一休,要求資方就變成啞巴?
勞基法明明最低標準,結果台灣老闆什麼都是有達標就好
總統講一句「勞工要自立自強」被嘴三年,但其實他講的沒錯
歐美日韓,先進國家沒有人的工會運動比我們弱,連東南亞都屌打我們了
整天做老闆夢,什麼時候才認清現實?
但今天看完工會退讓的新聞,我看以後私人企業別想罷工了
大家就乖乖當奴隸,有點能力的想辦法去國外發展,比較實際一點
--
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By Agatha
at 2019-06-25T06:29
at 2019-06-25T06:29

By Jacob
at 2019-06-29T10:17
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By Daniel
at 2019-06-29T21:46
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By Leila
at 2019-07-04T18:34
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By Damian
at 2019-07-05T19:24
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By Delia
at 2019-07-10T10:57
at 2019-07-10T10:57
一般人難免會抱著「反正我的權益不要受損就好」心態

By Belly
at 2019-07-14T19:40
at 2019-07-14T19:40
永遠不搭華航。現在連長榮也罷工,消費者選擇更少了

By Sierra Rose
at 2019-07-16T23:27
at 2019-07-16T23:27
行業可以行業,但是要服務我的行業不可以罷工就對了

By Selena
at 2019-07-19T18:55
at 2019-07-19T18:55
就會開始檢討納些勞工「貪得無厭」「待遇比我好了」
「面試時你早就都知道阿」「你自願做的」「不爽可以

By Olga
at 2019-07-21T02:44
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By Annie
at 2019-07-21T11:37
at 2019-07-21T11:37
現實的,消費者之餘服務業,就是資方沒錯。

By Hamiltion
at 2019-07-23T03:15
at 2019-07-23T03:15

By Dinah
at 2019-07-26T21:51
at 2019-07-26T21:51
沒錯,大家都想說,我不要當詐欺犯不就不怕被抓了

By Brianna
at 2019-07-27T18:06
at 2019-07-27T18:06

By Harry
at 2019-07-31T17:26
at 2019-07-31T17:26
說你有問題,你就是有問題,可以抓了。

By Lydia
at 2019-08-04T06:35
at 2019-08-04T06:35

By Oliver
at 2019-08-07T19:01
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By Hedwig
at 2019-08-08T00:16
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By Gary
at 2019-08-11T03:29
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By Erin
at 2019-08-11T18:04
at 2019-08-11T18:04

By Elizabeth
at 2019-08-16T15:26
at 2019-08-16T15:26
然後同陣營的又互相看不爽 同為勞工卻沒有同理心

By Kyle
at 2019-08-18T15:22
at 2019-08-18T15:22

By Barb Cronin
at 2019-08-21T15:06
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By Quanna
at 2019-08-24T19:20
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By Valerie
at 2019-08-25T21:25
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By Frederic
at 2019-08-30T07:30
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By Kelly
at 2019-09-02T06:35
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By Olive
at 2019-09-03T14:17
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By Hazel
at 2019-09-04T13:51
at 2019-09-04T13:51

By Damian
at 2019-09-08T13:53
at 2019-09-08T13:53
後來他們追殺工會成員,我不是工會成員,我不說話
後來他們追殺天主教徒,我不是天主教徒,我不說話

By Enid
at 2019-09-12T22:04
at 2019-09-12T22:04
要用哪種方式以及開出資方能接受的條件

By Dora
at 2019-09-15T19:17
at 2019-09-15T19:17
當勞工自己還在那邊分誰才有資格罷工,誰沒資格罷工
的時候,就注定被資方壓榨的命運。

By Andy
at 2019-09-20T15:20
at 2019-09-20T15:20

By Damian
at 2019-09-25T04:42
at 2019-09-25T04:42

By Cara
at 2019-09-28T12:50
at 2019-09-28T12:50
有一些人沒有學會如何爭取自己的權益 但被冠上奴性未免太過

By Ula
at 2019-09-29T08:28
at 2019-09-29T08:28

By Michael
at 2019-10-01T05:25
at 2019-10-01T05:25

By Ina
at 2019-10-04T06:12
at 2019-10-04T06:12

By Skylar Davis
at 2019-10-08T11:50
at 2019-10-08T11:50
被國民政府統治後 70年變成這種鳥樣 貪生怕死愛錢

By Michael
at 2019-10-12T21:57
at 2019-10-12T21:57

By Elma
at 2019-10-15T17:07
at 2019-10-15T17:07
人幾乎沒一個挺罷工,同事講空姐比我們爽好幾倍還那麼多錢
,這樣還要罷工乾脆不爽不要做,老闆則是表示這種罷工就是
欠教訓,真當公司法務都吃素的會找不到方法弄你這群人嗎,
婆婆媽媽則是認為現在的年輕人做事還不好好做硬要搞老闆,
連去吃個飯也能聽到老闆跟客人聊天說空姐這樣真的不行,幫
公司爭取利潤的也不是你們還要跟公司要錢,總之整個風向從
來都不在罷工方這邊,你還能說什麼呢?

By John
at 2019-10-17T06:18
at 2019-10-17T06:18
不上腳步 只要自己預設立場 其他人的意見都是民智未開

By Puput
at 2019-10-18T21:05
at 2019-10-18T21:05
台灣怎麼不全面像美國開放槍枝呢~ 怎麼不像挪威給殺人犯

By Yuri
at 2019-10-21T00:08
at 2019-10-21T00:08
事實上,罷工就是又蠢又爛,唯一存在的理由就是無能的人
只好通通擠在一起,耍無賴,而不是自己去長進。

By Isabella
at 2019-10-25T21:51
at 2019-10-25T21:51

By Franklin
at 2019-10-26T20:34
at 2019-10-26T20:34
可以玩的,其他小公司/影響力不足的勞工根本就是被拖去
下水而已,被當做犧牲品,還要為這些大公司勞工讚聲
有人說老闆狠,我說沒有這種罷工的渣狠啦

By Daph Bay
at 2019-10-29T03:39
at 2019-10-29T03:39
看看被犧牲者在機場的慘狀,有良心的人做得下去?????

By Gilbert
at 2019-10-29T10:21
at 2019-10-29T10:21
權,這才算是合理。不然都是犧牲別人成就自己,全是混蛋
全世界的罷工者,都是混蛋加1000000000000000級。

By Caitlin
at 2019-10-30T16:27
at 2019-10-30T16:27
的行為

By Caitlin
at 2019-11-04T00:15
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By Caitlin
at 2019-11-04T11:21
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By Queena
at 2019-11-07T01:29
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By Mia
at 2019-11-11T11:44
at 2019-11-11T11:44
了錢 為了崇高的理想嗎?鄉民情操偉大

By Odelette
at 2019-11-12T20:47
at 2019-11-12T20:47
灣人了 多數反罷工的素質很低落

By Ethan
at 2019-11-14T13:14
at 2019-11-14T13:14
所以罷工一定要有明確的訴求以及談判的高手

By Hamiltion
at 2019-11-16T11:38
at 2019-11-16T11:38

By Delia
at 2019-11-18T17:10
at 2019-11-18T17:10
低薪工作還願意奴 是不是自己也造就了這個市場?

By Rae
at 2019-11-20T01:08
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By Kama
at 2019-11-20T04:44
at 2019-11-20T04:44
空姐罷工所提的訴求 協商的過程等等去探討

By Hedwig
at 2019-11-23T22:16
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By Emma
at 2019-11-27T20:52
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By Poppy
at 2019-11-28T05:08
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By Isabella
at 2019-12-01T12:59
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By Rachel
at 2019-12-04T01:25
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By Connor
at 2019-12-08T19:49
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By Audriana
at 2019-12-11T17:31
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By Donna
at 2019-12-13T19:38
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By Sierra Rose
at 2019-12-18T11:42
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By Lydia
at 2019-12-23T10:58
at 2019-12-23T10:58
講話的,以後有什麼勞工權益問題,都一句不爽不要做就好了

By Mason
at 2019-12-26T12:45
at 2019-12-26T12:45
能反對喔,供三小

By Rachel
at 2019-12-31T02:53
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By Christine
at 2020-01-03T07:45
at 2020-01-03T07:45
麼形容詞?

By Callum
at 2020-01-03T09:14
at 2020-01-03T09:14
然是看自己領的錢有沒有空服員高!真是呵呵...這種偏

By Lydia
at 2020-01-03T18:02
at 2020-01-03T18:02
還是反對(空姐)罷工 如果是反對罷工這個行為

By Delia
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By Noah
at 2020-02-09T01:50
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By Frederica
at 2020-02-11T15:34
at 2020-02-11T15:34
工會把訴求聚焦在日支費很愚蠢

By Bennie
at 2020-02-15T09:41
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By Emma
at 2020-02-20T01:02
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at 2020-03-04T13:23
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By Ida
at 2020-03-09T04:29
at 2020-03-09T04:29
保守估計就有近8000人

By Kyle
at 2020-03-11T03:53
at 2020-03-11T03:53

By Ursula
at 2020-03-11T13:53
at 2020-03-11T13:53

By Iris
at 2020-03-12T22:19
at 2020-03-12T22:19

By Elizabeth
at 2020-03-14T05:50
at 2020-03-14T05:50

By Tracy
at 2020-03-19T00:51
at 2020-03-19T00:51

By Freda
at 2020-03-23T02:08
at 2020-03-23T02:08
而沒有辦法發聲或組織的極弱勢團體是否能幫助他們捍衛勞權

By Erin
at 2020-03-23T15:51
at 2020-03-23T15:51

By Ursula
at 2020-03-26T19:46
at 2020-03-26T19:46
比起歐美,這方面還很年輕,勞工意識也嚴重不足,造就今天
的勞動環境

By Harry
at 2020-03-30T10:13
at 2020-03-30T10:13

By Suhail Hany
at 2020-03-30T13:59
at 2020-03-30T13:59

By Adele
at 2020-04-01T00:12
at 2020-04-01T00:12

By Necoo
at 2020-04-02T14:12
at 2020-04-02T14:12

By Edward Lewis
at 2020-04-05T18:26
at 2020-04-05T18:26

By Queena
at 2020-04-07T18:20
at 2020-04-07T18:20

By Sierra Rose
at 2020-04-08T18:43
at 2020-04-08T18:43

By Agatha
at 2020-04-09T10:15
at 2020-04-09T10:15
時也不具備民主素養最基本的包容,請想想指著自己的四根
指頭。

By William
at 2020-04-10T10:59
at 2020-04-10T10:59

By Hedy
at 2020-04-15T00:27
at 2020-04-15T00:27
媒,卻連基本的判斷都沒有。

By Ophelia
at 2020-04-16T09:11
at 2020-04-16T09:11

By Kelly
at 2020-04-20T18:06
at 2020-04-20T18:06

By Kelly
at 2020-04-24T07:04
at 2020-04-24T07:04

By Poppy
at 2020-04-25T02:47
at 2020-04-25T02:47

By Poppy
at 2020-04-27T05:44
at 2020-04-27T05:44

By Madame
at 2020-04-29T03:06
at 2020-04-29T03:06

By Olga
at 2020-04-30T17:48
at 2020-04-30T17:48

By Christine
at 2020-05-01T08:05
at 2020-05-01T08:05
理性爭取談判

By Leila
at 2020-05-05T07:42
at 2020-05-05T07:42
如果勞資協議中資方每一條都抱著打壓的心態來對待自然
不會有人反對罷工

By Harry
at 2020-05-09T01:55
at 2020-05-09T01:55
還沒談完就自行認定協商破局,突襲罷工

By Michael
at 2020-05-11T09:45
at 2020-05-11T09:45

By Steve
at 2020-05-14T15:44
at 2020-05-14T15:44

By Wallis
at 2020-05-16T12:12
at 2020-05-16T12:12

By Thomas
at 2020-05-16T22:08
at 2020-05-16T22:08

By Charlie
at 2020-05-18T05:48
at 2020-05-18T05:48

By Edith
at 2020-05-22T11:19
at 2020-05-22T11:19

By Edith
at 2020-05-24T20:39
at 2020-05-24T20:39

By Wallis
at 2020-05-29T02:42
at 2020-05-29T02:42

By Robert
at 2020-05-30T18:56
at 2020-05-30T18:56

By Elma
at 2020-06-04T14:48
at 2020-06-04T14:48

By Suhail Hany
at 2020-06-08T05:52
at 2020-06-08T05:52

By Franklin
at 2020-06-13T03:40
at 2020-06-13T03:40

By Yedda
at 2020-06-13T12:22
at 2020-06-13T12:22

By Margaret
at 2020-06-15T05:59
at 2020-06-15T05:59
挺,但這次多少荒唐的地方

By Elvira
at 2020-06-19T11:46
at 2020-06-19T11:46

By Sandy
at 2020-06-19T19:42
at 2020-06-19T19:42

By Doris
at 2020-06-24T00:15
at 2020-06-24T00:15

By Damian
at 2020-06-27T10:43
at 2020-06-27T10:43

By Sierra Rose
at 2020-07-02T01:24
at 2020-07-02T01:24

By Emma
at 2020-07-06T02:54
at 2020-07-06T02:54

By Linda
at 2020-07-06T14:35
at 2020-07-06T14:35

By Linda
at 2020-07-07T19:54
at 2020-07-07T19:54
的群眾正好被政客利用

By Sierra Rose
at 2020-07-08T14:57
at 2020-07-08T14:57

By Megan
at 2020-07-09T22:32
at 2020-07-09T22:32

By Irma
at 2020-07-13T02:00
at 2020-07-13T02:00
太多無法曝光,不然真的是不爽不要做啊?人家一開始
就提出規定,你無法遵守就是不要做,為什麼反而要人
家改變?

By Kumar
at 2020-07-16T15:38
at 2020-07-16T15:38
空的文章之前,有沒有了解為什麼一堆人反對?理由都是
十分充分而且跟完全壓制挺罷工聲浪的

By Victoria
at 2020-07-21T11:57
at 2020-07-21T11:57

By Regina
at 2020-07-24T08:38
at 2020-07-24T08:38

By Tom
at 2020-07-26T01:21
at 2020-07-26T01:21
不能盲挺吧

By Hedda
at 2020-07-27T10:22
at 2020-07-27T10:22
的也很杜蘭,通勤一天至少要花3小時,加上輪班身體
一直無法調節時差,肝指數今年莫名其妙的下降外,之
前都是逐年攀升。我這樣是否也能罷工?如果今天是國
營罷工,大概沒有人會支持我們吧?不就是說我們待遇
比其他人好,工作內容也是白紙黑字都說明了。

By Anthony
at 2020-07-30T05:47
at 2020-07-30T05:47
嗎?長榮真的有這麼差?那怎麼自己不能去別間公司,
他們薪水就是比很多人好了,今天才會很多人看不下去
。社會其他受薪階級底層的才更該改善好嗎?23000這
種薪水真的不知道對於未來能有什麼期待。

By Zanna
at 2020-08-02T03:58
at 2020-08-02T03:58

By Carolina Franco
at 2020-08-06T07:31
at 2020-08-06T07:31

By Mary
at 2020-08-10T12:27
at 2020-08-10T12:27
擔罷工,會被靠北的風險,就在那邊說「國營企業一定會
被靠北」。
印度人都懂得為自己權利發聲,無論公、私營都懂得站出
來,再看看裡面的條款,是不是很不合理?
https://tinyurl.com/y3rfsxlr

By Dorothy
at 2020-08-11T14:08
at 2020-08-11T14:08

By Quanna
at 2020-08-12T20:32
at 2020-08-12T20:32

By Kyle
at 2020-08-15T04:44
at 2020-08-15T04:44
錢啊 整天看不到男朋友身體不好 這跟錢有什麼關係 這
樣應該是要假吧?

By Liam
at 2020-08-16T23:27
at 2020-08-16T23:27

By Delia
at 2020-08-18T13:05
at 2020-08-18T13:05

By Lily
at 2020-08-20T05:55
at 2020-08-20T05:55

By Hedy
at 2020-08-24T03:57
at 2020-08-24T03:57

By Odelette
at 2020-08-28T18:15
at 2020-08-28T18:15

By Rebecca
at 2020-08-30T18:54
at 2020-08-30T18:54

By Poppy
at 2020-09-04T18:02
at 2020-09-04T18:02

By Andrew
at 2020-09-07T01:33
at 2020-09-07T01:33

By Daniel
at 2020-09-07T17:08
at 2020-09-07T17:08

By Madame
at 2020-09-09T22:25
at 2020-09-09T22:25
https://i.imgur.com/6liVSyO.jpg

By Yedda
at 2020-09-12T00:00
at 2020-09-12T00:00

By Kama
at 2020-09-16T08:42
at 2020-09-16T08:42

By Connor
at 2020-09-20T07:28
at 2020-09-20T07:28

By Edward Lewis
at 2020-09-24T09:46
at 2020-09-24T09:46
難怪勞權這麼低落還自我感覺良好

By Rachel
at 2020-09-25T09:08
at 2020-09-25T09:08

By Hedwig
at 2020-09-25T17:33
at 2020-09-25T17:33

By Bethany
at 2020-09-26T13:36
at 2020-09-26T13:36
勞方與資方角度思考才是理性

By Agnes
at 2020-09-28T14:33
at 2020-09-28T14:33
維, 只是降低人生可能性的愚民政策

By Quintina
at 2020-09-30T21:20
at 2020-09-30T21:20

By Poppy
at 2020-10-01T17:33
at 2020-10-01T17:33

By Ethan
at 2020-10-06T04:26
at 2020-10-06T04:26

By Mason
at 2020-10-11T00:44
at 2020-10-11T00:44

By Barb Cronin
at 2020-10-15T02:45
at 2020-10-15T02:45

By Annie
at 2020-10-18T03:34
at 2020-10-18T03:34

By Annie
at 2020-10-21T01:23
at 2020-10-21T01:23

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2020-10-22T08:10
at 2020-10-22T08:10

By Carol
at 2020-10-27T06:10
at 2020-10-27T06:10

By Lucy
at 2020-10-30T14:21
at 2020-10-30T14:21
底下勞工就開始內鬥
不花多少力氣就可以分化打工仔

By John
at 2020-10-31T10:39
at 2020-10-31T10:39

By John
at 2020-11-03T20:05
at 2020-11-03T20:05

By Tom
at 2020-11-04T22:28
at 2020-11-04T22:28

By Belly
at 2020-11-07T16:48
at 2020-11-07T16:48

By Cara
at 2020-11-09T17:26
at 2020-11-09T17:26

By Freda
at 2020-11-14T14:04
at 2020-11-14T14:04

By Aaliyah
at 2020-11-17T09:29
at 2020-11-17T09:29

By Oliver
at 2020-11-17T20:47
at 2020-11-17T20:47
後手段 而且在台灣勞權不高的狀況下還是得爭取一定數
量的權益 空服員辛苦的點一定有 而且不是取得合法的罷

By Rae
at 2020-11-18T16:47
at 2020-11-18T16:47
正的訴求是加薪跟改善疲勞 但是這工會沒有讓社會大眾
看見空服員的訴求 真的不清楚這次罷工如果失敗了 往
後交通運輸業處境會不會更難嗎

By Margaret
at 2020-11-23T13:00
at 2020-11-23T13:00
問題是現在罷工的說自己合法就好又要求對方合理思考....

By Franklin
at 2020-11-25T11:41
at 2020-11-25T11:41

By Dora
at 2020-11-29T08:51
at 2020-11-29T08:51

By Leila
at 2020-12-02T06:20
at 2020-12-02T06:20

By Victoria
at 2020-12-06T19:49
at 2020-12-06T19:49

By Lucy
at 2020-12-07T18:28
at 2020-12-07T18:28

By Gilbert
at 2020-12-12T15:31
at 2020-12-12T15:31
受?沒有勇氣?只是認為國營比上不足,比下有餘,所
以沒人會去抗爭而已好嗎?否則你真認為裡面很多制度
合理嗎?

By Oscar
at 2020-12-15T06:40
at 2020-12-15T06:40

By Zanna
at 2020-12-19T10:36
at 2020-12-19T10:36

By Jake
at 2020-12-21T21:05
at 2020-12-21T21:05

By Rachel
at 2020-12-22T00:38
at 2020-12-22T00:38
努力爭取,我憑什麼嘴?制度不好就用正確的方式改變爭
取阿,我永遠不會說出:不爽不要幹的這種話。
假設台電罷工,沒電一天,這個嚴重影響社會,但是多少
人會去看這個影響背後的起因?
比上不足,比下有餘的心態不就是還有更糟糕的人存在安
慰自己嗎?
我一個月拿28K,安慰自己還有領22K的人存在,這樣會進
步?

By Kumar
at 2020-12-25T05:57
at 2020-12-25T05:57

By Linda
at 2020-12-26T07:16
at 2020-12-26T07:16
間罵反罷工的是奴才、仇女

By Skylar Davis
at 2020-12-30T11:00
at 2020-12-30T11:00
的勞權提升真的很難啊

By Quintina
at 2021-01-04T03:14
at 2021-01-04T03:14

By Faithe
at 2021-01-07T07:15
at 2021-01-07T07:15
。另外推你的論點,我喜歡

By Kumar
at 2021-01-10T20:52
at 2021-01-10T20:52

By Linda
at 2021-01-11T19:47
at 2021-01-11T19:47

By Emma
at 2021-01-13T12:15
at 2021-01-13T12:15

By Zanna
at 2021-01-18T05:49
at 2021-01-18T05:49

By Erin
at 2021-01-23T04:13
at 2021-01-23T04:13

By Ethan
at 2021-01-25T06:23
at 2021-01-25T06:23

By David
at 2021-01-27T22:22
at 2021-01-27T22:22

By Freda
at 2021-01-30T18:50
at 2021-01-30T18:50

By Emma
at 2021-02-01T20:52
at 2021-02-01T20:52

By Eartha
at 2021-02-02T01:26
at 2021-02-02T01:26

By Todd Johnson
at 2021-02-04T03:35
at 2021-02-04T03:35

By Megan
at 2021-02-05T23:34
at 2021-02-05T23:34

By Eden
at 2021-02-10T17:56
at 2021-02-10T17:56
者只能關注後續發展而已...

By Kyle
at 2021-02-10T19:16
at 2021-02-10T19:16
公關公司

By Necoo
at 2021-02-12T07:54
at 2021-02-12T07:54

By Genevieve
at 2021-02-17T03:59
at 2021-02-17T03:59

By Heather
at 2021-02-20T08:36
at 2021-02-20T08:36
餐吧。民主的價值就是像公投結果一樣,不滿意但要尊重

By Zora
at 2021-02-23T13:21
at 2021-02-23T13:21

By Ethan
at 2021-02-27T19:20
at 2021-02-27T19:20

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-03-02T07:51
at 2021-03-02T07:51

By Kama
at 2021-03-02T22:32
at 2021-03-02T22:32

By Olivia
at 2021-03-04T10:47
at 2021-03-04T10:47
邊笑

By John
at 2021-03-04T16:27
at 2021-03-04T16:27
站而已,為何你會覺得這篇要有很多推

By Wallis
at 2021-03-06T09:01
at 2021-03-06T09:01

By Franklin
at 2021-03-09T22:49
at 2021-03-09T22:49
出來飛?

By Madame
at 2021-03-14T14:33
at 2021-03-14T14:33

By James
at 2021-03-18T00:20
at 2021-03-18T00:20
表其專業度高於空服,不是嗎?

By Harry
at 2021-03-22T05:04
at 2021-03-22T05:04

By Rosalind
at 2021-03-25T11:56
at 2021-03-25T11:56

By Jessica
at 2021-03-25T21:23
at 2021-03-25T21:23

By Edwina
at 2021-03-27T14:31
at 2021-03-27T14:31

By Carol
at 2021-03-31T19:19
at 2021-03-31T19:19

By Caitlin
at 2021-04-03T13:36
at 2021-04-03T13:36

By John
at 2021-04-04T12:36
at 2021-04-04T12:36

By Anonymous
at 2021-04-04T17:51
at 2021-04-04T17:51

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-04-06T03:36
at 2021-04-06T03:36

By Harry
at 2021-04-10T21:00
at 2021-04-10T21:00
地勤出來飛 。因為空服考進去之後要訓練三個月,不只是
訓練端盤子,最重要的是飛安狀況訓練,今天你去的餐廳
失火,服務員沒辦法救你,但是空服員可以。
至於邏輯好不好我就不說明了,謝謝指教

By Quanna
at 2021-04-15T15:13
at 2021-04-15T15:13
來的?其他各國的空少是哪裡來的?肯定是來當花瓶的,
對吧?

By Jessica
at 2021-04-16T22:10
at 2021-04-16T22:10
請不要用自己的偏見來看輕別人

By Freda
at 2021-04-21T10:58
at 2021-04-21T10:58

By Suhail Hany
at 2021-04-24T18:01
at 2021-04-24T18:01
笑死 這串還自以為不爽不要做最大的就是最大幫兇

By Hazel
at 2021-04-26T01:27
at 2021-04-26T01:27

By Puput
at 2021-04-29T18:27
at 2021-04-29T18:27

By David
at 2021-04-30T03:06
at 2021-04-30T03:06

By Franklin
at 2021-05-04T15:21
at 2021-05-04T15:21

By Lydia
at 2021-05-09T11:25
at 2021-05-09T11:25

By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-05-14T00:30
at 2021-05-14T00:30

By Rachel
at 2021-05-14T12:56
at 2021-05-14T12:56

By Una
at 2021-05-17T03:53
at 2021-05-17T03:53

By Yedda
at 2021-05-19T02:42
at 2021-05-19T02:42

By Wallis
at 2021-05-20T02:14
at 2021-05-20T02:14

By Catherine
at 2021-05-20T05:52
at 2021-05-20T05:52

By Audriana
at 2021-05-25T03:04
at 2021-05-25T03:04

By Victoria
at 2021-05-25T07:38
at 2021-05-25T07:38

By Kumar
at 2021-05-25T18:50
at 2021-05-25T18:50
己權利跟福利,那待遇更差的勞工你還不罷工,怪誰?

By Daniel
at 2021-05-28T02:54
at 2021-05-28T02:54
不要輕易說出不爽不要做這種幹話,企業主早就持續

By Adele
at 2021-05-28T19:28
at 2021-05-28T19:28
國家,但品質降低,最後損失的是消費者,企業獲利卻
是增加的。不爽不要做這句話是企業主在講的,勞工

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-06-02T07:39
at 2021-06-02T07:39

By Zenobia
at 2021-06-06T11:55
at 2021-06-06T11:55

By Joseph
at 2021-06-07T20:02
at 2021-06-07T20:02

By Heather
at 2021-06-12T00:05
at 2021-06-12T00:05
培養機師、空姐的成本較高,進入的門檻也高

By Hardy
at 2021-06-13T13:47
at 2021-06-13T13:47

By Valerie
at 2021-06-14T10:13
at 2021-06-14T10:13

By Ophelia
at 2021-06-19T02:36
at 2021-06-19T02:36

By Sarah
at 2021-06-19T17:06
at 2021-06-19T17:06
只有空姐的薪水降低,這樣爽到誰?企業主阿。
PTT到底是被資方滲透多嚴重....

By Anthony
at 2021-06-20T16:04
at 2021-06-20T16:04

By Lucy
at 2021-06-24T09:12
at 2021-06-24T09:12

By Hedy
at 2021-06-26T23:20
at 2021-06-26T23:20

By Ethan
at 2021-06-29T21:12
at 2021-06-29T21:12

By Hamiltion
at 2021-07-04T10:56
at 2021-07-04T10:56

By Emily
at 2021-07-05T00:05
at 2021-07-05T00:05

By Enid
at 2021-07-07T02:04
at 2021-07-07T02:04

By Agnes
at 2021-07-09T00:32
at 2021-07-09T00:32

By Una
at 2021-07-11T23:06
at 2021-07-11T23:06

By Hamiltion
at 2021-07-12T16:25
at 2021-07-12T16:25

By Thomas
at 2021-07-17T00:53
at 2021-07-17T00:53

By Edwina
at 2021-07-20T05:33
at 2021-07-20T05:33

By Bethany
at 2021-07-24T04:51
at 2021-07-24T04:51

By Olga
at 2021-07-27T11:18
at 2021-07-27T11:18

By Barb Cronin
at 2021-07-29T20:07
at 2021-07-29T20:07

By James
at 2021-08-03T06:47
at 2021-08-03T06:47
各國空少是少數例子喔?那真的沒什麼好說了,你有空多
出國看看吧

By Anonymous
at 2021-08-05T13:02
at 2021-08-05T13:02
示你只有歧視沒有理性,加油

By Charlotte
at 2021-08-06T23:20
at 2021-08-06T23:20

By Enid
at 2021-08-10T21:11
at 2021-08-10T21:11
人接受自己的想法,這跟共產黨有什麼兩樣?訴求背後
都沒有支持的論點,問東答西,不答應就罷工,這你挺得
下去我才覺得神奇

By Dinah
at 2021-08-12T05:01
at 2021-08-12T05:01
罷工,這你也挺?你會說酒駕違法不能相提並論,但勞工
董事違反公司法的自助餐我看你也是吃下去了

By Jessica
at 2021-08-15T13:07
at 2021-08-15T13:07
我支持不下去啊,前兩次就還可以啊

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-08-15T15:52
at 2021-08-15T15:52
一堆人不會就事論事只會在那無腦跟風

By Jessica
at 2021-08-20T11:42
at 2021-08-20T11:42

By Doris
at 2021-08-21T10:32
at 2021-08-21T10:32

By Sandy
at 2021-08-25T03:31
at 2021-08-25T03:31

By Hazel
at 2021-08-28T19:46
at 2021-08-28T19:46

By Margaret
at 2021-09-02T07:24
at 2021-09-02T07:24
你

By Una
at 2021-09-05T16:31
at 2021-09-05T16:31

By Mary
at 2021-09-09T07:59
at 2021-09-09T07:59
比男性容易 越說越顯得你無知

By Vanessa
at 2021-09-10T12:47
at 2021-09-10T12:47

By Carolina Franco
at 2021-09-12T02:32
at 2021-09-12T02:32
輕罪可以,原來罷工真的比較重要,沒有法源依據的勞工
董事之後再說啦!真的把自助餐發揮到極致

By Andy
at 2021-09-14T23:42
at 2021-09-14T23:42

By Kama
at 2021-09-19T22:42
at 2021-09-19T22:42

By Ingrid
at 2021-09-20T11:32
at 2021-09-20T11:32

By Yedda
at 2021-09-22T05:39
at 2021-09-22T05:39

By George
at 2021-09-22T23:40
at 2021-09-22T23:40
台灣多數人就是眼紅人家空服員的受薪階級水平 寧可
把她們拉到低薪階級 甚至失業更好 反正瞧不起人認為
其也沒專業不是 真的是可悲

By George
at 2021-09-27T16:08
at 2021-09-27T16:08

By Tom
at 2021-10-01T16:17
at 2021-10-01T16:17
樣,台灣人都在比可憐的就是了?大家都很忙,不是一
起站出來爭取勞權,反而開嘲諷? #團結好嗎

By Olga
at 2021-10-03T03:35
at 2021-10-03T03:35

By Ina
at 2021-10-03T22:01
at 2021-10-03T22:01

By Tracy
at 2021-10-07T13:28
at 2021-10-07T13:28
用民主全餐綁一起的才有問題吧。今天挺同是認同自由意志的
行為,挺反中反紅是對對岸政經文化侵略的反彈,每一道端出
來都香噴噴的。然後空服員這回是什麼看逐字稿就挺不下去了
,激烈手段但訴求不明被直接懶人包成$$$

By Andy
at 2021-10-07T22:57
at 2021-10-07T22:57

By Lydia
at 2021-10-10T21:46
at 2021-10-10T21:46

By Erin
at 2021-10-15T03:55
at 2021-10-15T03:55

By Ula
at 2021-10-16T15:15
at 2021-10-16T15:15

By Ida
at 2021-10-19T20:18
at 2021-10-19T20:18
反對

By Necoo
at 2021-10-22T16:35
at 2021-10-22T16:35

By Michael
at 2021-10-25T13:50
at 2021-10-25T13:50

By Tracy
at 2021-10-30T09:10
at 2021-10-30T09:10
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