人民對低薪有責任嗎? - 薪水

By George
at 2018-06-01T01:48
at 2018-06-01T01:48
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※ 引述《tom7629 (pipi)》之銘言:
: 人民對低薪有責任嗎?
: 前陣子聽一位執政黨立委上電視對低薪發表看法。我覺得他說得很好,低薪是一個綜合性
: 結果,會造成這因素有很多理由。但是他去歐洲看到很多年輕人,因為從小在多語環境下
: ,所以有很多選擇的權力。例如哪邊就業市場好,因為會那國家語言,所以就會往那邊流
: 動。
美國人都會說英文,美國人都有很好的薪水嗎?
薪水低和多語環境有什麼關係?
事實上台灣的工作,大部份都用不到外語。
對於用不到的工作,外語不好有差嗎?
你中間那段政治的東西,就不談了...
那種覺青情懷的東西,除非從政,一點屁用也沒有
: 只是問題很現實,台灣人卻總是對生活抱著幻想。
: 形態的東西。為什麼一個年輕人讀到高中或大學,卻可以運用在工作上的技能沒幾個?
: 更可怕的是,台灣就業市場很少人關注這些實際問題。
如果你問我,我覺得學歷、經歷、技能和自覺才是問題
有個作家說,快樂的童年常常會造成不快樂的成年
其實不能說沒道理,今天學歷沒用嗎?
學歷不好,你的履歷人家都直接刪除了吧!
你要說自己多專業,台灣有很多技能檢定和證照考試,是公司會採用的
(不是那種交錢就拿照的垃圾,我指的是技師、電匠、甲安、甲衛、消防技師(士))
這些考試都不限學歷啊,如果那麼有能力,怎麼考不上?
好吧,沒學歷,沒專業,那就看皮相或是出體力
但是3K的工作台灣人也不太愛作啊,最後有些人
沒有學歷、沒有專業、長相普通、體力不夠
平凡人卻想要不平凡的人
那就只剩嘴砲了,不然你要他作什麼?
我覺得,低層和高層工作或低薪和高薪的工作,
主要差別應該在於例行、重複性事物與需要技巧或判斷的工作各佔多少比例,
要求具備的技能和判斷力有多高,以及承擔的職責有什麼不同,
也就是說,如果缺乏必要的技能或判斷錯誤的話,會對組織整體績效產生多大的影響
如果你只是一個作業員,你覺得你很認真工作,但你不可能拿的和CEO一樣的錢
即使你覺得他沒有一半的努力...
更重要的是,台灣人對工人有偏見
整個社會對製造業的意義認知並不高,技術工人的待遇與普通工人的待遇
沒有很大的差別,讓年輕人不想投入當工人,慢慢的一般工人都變成外勞
接下來政府要再引進白領和技術外勞,台灣同年中2%之後的年輕人要作什麼?
: 我周遭很多台灣青年,即使每天抱怨低薪。但是說到改變,依舊滿嘴「本土化」、「人權
: 」..等意識型態。
: 而多數人民的意志,才會產生政府的政策。而低薪問題,總是在檢討政府,沒人檢討過多
: 數人民想法。
檢討什麼?
混的好的人不會想改變,混的不好的人,想法沒人在意
勞心者治人,勞力者治於人這種思想還是在台灣有市場啊
--
我有一個朋友叫小美,一直沒結婚。
因為她想要一個誠實的男人。
媒婆給四十歲的小美介紹了幾個男生:
一個在當記者、一個是某黨黨工、一個是資動部高官
一位上校軍官、一位民意代表,最後一個是詐騙集團車手
最後小美拒絕了那些騙子,選擇了詐騙集團車手
--
: 人民對低薪有責任嗎?
: 前陣子聽一位執政黨立委上電視對低薪發表看法。我覺得他說得很好,低薪是一個綜合性
: 結果,會造成這因素有很多理由。但是他去歐洲看到很多年輕人,因為從小在多語環境下
: ,所以有很多選擇的權力。例如哪邊就業市場好,因為會那國家語言,所以就會往那邊流
: 動。
美國人都會說英文,美國人都有很好的薪水嗎?
薪水低和多語環境有什麼關係?
事實上台灣的工作,大部份都用不到外語。
對於用不到的工作,外語不好有差嗎?
你中間那段政治的東西,就不談了...
那種覺青情懷的東西,除非從政,一點屁用也沒有
: 只是問題很現實,台灣人卻總是對生活抱著幻想。
: 形態的東西。為什麼一個年輕人讀到高中或大學,卻可以運用在工作上的技能沒幾個?
: 更可怕的是,台灣就業市場很少人關注這些實際問題。
如果你問我,我覺得學歷、經歷、技能和自覺才是問題
有個作家說,快樂的童年常常會造成不快樂的成年
其實不能說沒道理,今天學歷沒用嗎?
學歷不好,你的履歷人家都直接刪除了吧!
你要說自己多專業,台灣有很多技能檢定和證照考試,是公司會採用的
(不是那種交錢就拿照的垃圾,我指的是技師、電匠、甲安、甲衛、消防技師(士))
這些考試都不限學歷啊,如果那麼有能力,怎麼考不上?
好吧,沒學歷,沒專業,那就看皮相或是出體力
但是3K的工作台灣人也不太愛作啊,最後有些人
沒有學歷、沒有專業、長相普通、體力不夠
平凡人卻想要不平凡的人
那就只剩嘴砲了,不然你要他作什麼?
我覺得,低層和高層工作或低薪和高薪的工作,
主要差別應該在於例行、重複性事物與需要技巧或判斷的工作各佔多少比例,
要求具備的技能和判斷力有多高,以及承擔的職責有什麼不同,
也就是說,如果缺乏必要的技能或判斷錯誤的話,會對組織整體績效產生多大的影響
如果你只是一個作業員,你覺得你很認真工作,但你不可能拿的和CEO一樣的錢
即使你覺得他沒有一半的努力...
更重要的是,台灣人對工人有偏見
整個社會對製造業的意義認知並不高,技術工人的待遇與普通工人的待遇
沒有很大的差別,讓年輕人不想投入當工人,慢慢的一般工人都變成外勞
接下來政府要再引進白領和技術外勞,台灣同年中2%之後的年輕人要作什麼?
: 我周遭很多台灣青年,即使每天抱怨低薪。但是說到改變,依舊滿嘴「本土化」、「人權
: 」..等意識型態。
: 而多數人民的意志,才會產生政府的政策。而低薪問題,總是在檢討政府,沒人檢討過多
: 數人民想法。
檢討什麼?
混的好的人不會想改變,混的不好的人,想法沒人在意
勞心者治人,勞力者治於人這種思想還是在台灣有市場啊
--
我有一個朋友叫小美,一直沒結婚。
因為她想要一個誠實的男人。
媒婆給四十歲的小美介紹了幾個男生:
一個在當記者、一個是某黨黨工、一個是資動部高官
一位上校軍官、一位民意代表,最後一個是詐騙集團車手
最後小美拒絕了那些騙子,選擇了詐騙集團車手
--
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