退休後 公保 勞保為什麼領的錢差這麼多? - 薪水

By Selena
at 2013-11-03T01:31
at 2013-11-03T01:31
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※ 引述《owenx (鄉民=鄉愿)》之銘言:
: 雖然是蠢問題,但是看在五六的份上還是來回一下吧。
: 我目前的工作月薪跟閃光差不多都在四萬五左右,我是勞保她是公保。
: 我每個月的勞保費只要繳790,老闆要幫我付2765塊,還要提撥6%勞退2700塊。
: 閃光每個月公保雖然只要繳667,但是沒有失業給付、生育給付和職災給付。
: 而且公保跟退休金一點關係都沒有,退休金來自『退撫基金』,目前她一個月
: 要自付1941塊。
你上面有一點說得很對
雖然公保勞保都有老年給付項目
but 公保勞保的老年給付 跟 退休金 是兩回事!
公保 vs 勞保
退撫金 vs 勞退
這兩組才是互相對應的
所以照你所計算的
勞保保費790 是拿來對應 公保保費667
退撫基金的1941 應該是是拿來對應 勞退的2700
公保、勞保、退撫金、勞退 各自的保費和給付有許多不同
有興趣的鄉民自己找規定來看
誰好誰壞自己評斷~
不要什麼都不懂 只會人云亦云
我對公保的看法
大致上只有對保額級距無上限這點比較感冒
因為這基本上小公務人員吃不太到
但是那些高官肥貓吃更肥
: OK,如果我們兩個一輩子都是這麼薪水做到退休60歲,算35年年資好了。
: 60歲的時候我每個月可以領到勞保年金23815+勞退8672=32487元。
: 老師可以領到32347元(但其實不可能,因為一定會調薪+主管加給)
: 但是老師在這35年裡要比我多繳1941*12*35=815220元,算2%利息的話會是
: 1,181,216元。
: 哪個比較好?你說呢?
公務人員每個月要多繳1941耶!!
哪個比較好?
答案好像國小生都知道吧?
問題真的是這樣嗎?
盲點1.
勞退每月的2700老闆出
勞工免出錢躺著領勞退就好~
real?
請問你買同家工廠出品月餅
一盒就普通紙盒裝 一盒是鑲金精美包裝
這包裝費看似是老闆出
但實際上呢?
反過來說,雖然你看似跟你女友都是領45000
但如果沒勞退要付,你的薪水的上限空間也許是...?
盲點2.
退撫基金和勞退 說穿了其實不過就是類似強迫儲蓄
提撥上限都是12%
不同的是
退撫基金是政府出65% 個人出35%
勞退是老闆出50% 個人出0~50%隨意
萬一勞工真遇到個好老闆
願意讓自己少賺點
真的從自己荷包掏錢幫勞工出勞退
那勞工也不過就是賺50%
公務人員可是賺65%
結果你拿35% vs 0% 來說嘴...
你確定你有想清楚這之中的差別?
其實這些保險和退休金的規定就在那
有心的人查一查就知道全貌
只是鄉民大多根本沒心去搞懂
只會人云亦云,被政治人物操弄著玩
(放心,這段話不是說原po您)
我是建議把公保保費和給付方式改成跟勞保一樣
或者直接兩個基金合併好了
政治人物少了炒作話題
到時政府又要拿人民血汗錢補貼基金虧損
至少勞工&公務人員都是一體享用的
--
: 雖然是蠢問題,但是看在五六的份上還是來回一下吧。
: 我目前的工作月薪跟閃光差不多都在四萬五左右,我是勞保她是公保。
: 我每個月的勞保費只要繳790,老闆要幫我付2765塊,還要提撥6%勞退2700塊。
: 閃光每個月公保雖然只要繳667,但是沒有失業給付、生育給付和職災給付。
: 而且公保跟退休金一點關係都沒有,退休金來自『退撫基金』,目前她一個月
: 要自付1941塊。
你上面有一點說得很對
雖然公保勞保都有老年給付項目
but 公保勞保的老年給付 跟 退休金 是兩回事!
公保 vs 勞保
退撫金 vs 勞退
這兩組才是互相對應的
所以照你所計算的
勞保保費790 是拿來對應 公保保費667
退撫基金的1941 應該是是拿來對應 勞退的2700
公保、勞保、退撫金、勞退 各自的保費和給付有許多不同
有興趣的鄉民自己找規定來看
誰好誰壞自己評斷~
不要什麼都不懂 只會人云亦云
我對公保的看法
大致上只有對保額級距無上限這點比較感冒
因為這基本上小公務人員吃不太到
但是那些高官肥貓吃更肥
: OK,如果我們兩個一輩子都是這麼薪水做到退休60歲,算35年年資好了。
: 60歲的時候我每個月可以領到勞保年金23815+勞退8672=32487元。
: 老師可以領到32347元(但其實不可能,因為一定會調薪+主管加給)
: 但是老師在這35年裡要比我多繳1941*12*35=815220元,算2%利息的話會是
: 1,181,216元。
: 哪個比較好?你說呢?
公務人員每個月要多繳1941耶!!
哪個比較好?
答案好像國小生都知道吧?
問題真的是這樣嗎?
盲點1.
勞退每月的2700老闆出
勞工免出錢躺著領勞退就好~
real?
請問你買同家工廠出品月餅
一盒就普通紙盒裝 一盒是鑲金精美包裝
這包裝費看似是老闆出
但實際上呢?
反過來說,雖然你看似跟你女友都是領45000
但如果沒勞退要付,你的薪水的上限空間也許是...?
盲點2.
退撫基金和勞退 說穿了其實不過就是類似強迫儲蓄
提撥上限都是12%
不同的是
退撫基金是政府出65% 個人出35%
勞退是老闆出50% 個人出0~50%隨意
萬一勞工真遇到個好老闆
願意讓自己少賺點
真的從自己荷包掏錢幫勞工出勞退
那勞工也不過就是賺50%
公務人員可是賺65%
結果你拿35% vs 0% 來說嘴...
你確定你有想清楚這之中的差別?
其實這些保險和退休金的規定就在那
有心的人查一查就知道全貌
只是鄉民大多根本沒心去搞懂
只會人云亦云,被政治人物操弄著玩
(放心,這段話不是說原po您)
我是建議把公保保費和給付方式改成跟勞保一樣
或者直接兩個基金合併好了
政治人物少了炒作話題
到時政府又要拿人民血汗錢補貼基金虧損
至少勞工&公務人員都是一體享用的
--
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