薪資面議其實是保護勞工吧? - 面試

By Dorothy
at 2018-11-11T11:29
at 2018-11-11T11:29
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※ 引述《touchBB (CK)》之銘言:
: 很多學生都很反感薪資寫"面議"
: 可是實際上工作過的都知道 面議才是真正保護勞工的
: 如果求職薪水就寫在104或其他地方
: 你還沒進去薪水全公司的人都知道 感覺是?
其實我很贊成月薪四萬以下不可「薪資面議」。
高度專業的工作,
會依照每個人的經歷、專業度而有不同的價值,
我認識許多年薪250萬台幣以上的外商工程師、顧問,
他們的價值就貴在業界的經歷、人脈無法量化,
這種要怎麼一口價?
相對的,非高度專業的工作,
大家就別浪費時間,
有個基本價再決定是否是否應試,不好嗎?
至於薪資,我從來都不覺得這是不能公開的,
很多公司規定不得討論薪資,
當大家都傻瓜還是真有這麼邊緣,同事之間都不討論彼此薪資?
還是公司連茶水間都裝監聽器,討論薪資就炒人?
(這樣違反言論自由吧?)
很難理解原po的疑慮:
: 可是實際上工作過的都知道 面議才是真正保護勞工的
保護什麼??
: 如果求職薪水就寫在104或其他地方
: 你還沒進去薪水全公司的人都知道 感覺是?
你覺得會因為你的薪水多少就增加被詐騙/搶劫的機率嗎?
我一直認為薪水從來都不會是秘密,
人都會打聽,
網路上不會問嗎?
你在公司不會跟人打聽嗎?
買東西都會比價了,找工作不會?
華人又最習慣過年就問你現在薪水多少,
就算公司不公佈,你爸媽也會幫你放送XD
我開公司之前當了非常多年的鋼琴老師,
我們這一行絕對都是先打聽薪資才決定是否面試,
所以每個老師之間都知道彼此的身價;
後來我開了公司,
我們的薪資結構也都是公開的,
看過我發的徵人啟事就知道,
我們的薪資結構細到連三節獎金計算方式都是公開在網路上的,
(只有抽成是面試才會談)
我們發薪水當天是全公司傳閱薪資條+簽名,
開會後我都會問:
有沒有人對自己薪資不滿意的?提出來討論。
你說肯定沒有人敢講。
錯了,
目前為止有一位PT提了,提完次月我就把她調薪一階,
我下個月也打算再調她一階,
(這位PT今年四、五月任職)
還有一個美編也提了,
這位就是今年端午跟中秋獎金都領五位數的。
薪資公開對個人、對小型公司而言,都是利大於弊,
彼此會競爭,有競爭就會有進步,
我不喜歡私下抱怨薪水如何,
有本事就公開提出來,讓其他同事也看看你是否真的值得調薪,
沒有調薪的人,看到其他被調薪的人,
心裡就有譜,鞭策自己。
--
俺是驗過最多AV女優肉體的人...新建粉絲頁衝點讚拼藍勾勾中~~
□ ┌─┐ █
. │ 眼睛大而無神,不如小而勾魂; ┌─┐.
■└─┘ 老二大而不硬,不如短小精幹。 █─┘
* https://www.facebook.com/RealSallyQ/
--
: 很多學生都很反感薪資寫"面議"
: 可是實際上工作過的都知道 面議才是真正保護勞工的
: 如果求職薪水就寫在104或其他地方
: 你還沒進去薪水全公司的人都知道 感覺是?
其實我很贊成月薪四萬以下不可「薪資面議」。
高度專業的工作,
會依照每個人的經歷、專業度而有不同的價值,
我認識許多年薪250萬台幣以上的外商工程師、顧問,
他們的價值就貴在業界的經歷、人脈無法量化,
這種要怎麼一口價?
相對的,非高度專業的工作,
大家就別浪費時間,
有個基本價再決定是否是否應試,不好嗎?
至於薪資,我從來都不覺得這是不能公開的,
很多公司規定不得討論薪資,
當大家都傻瓜還是真有這麼邊緣,同事之間都不討論彼此薪資?
還是公司連茶水間都裝監聽器,討論薪資就炒人?
(這樣違反言論自由吧?)
很難理解原po的疑慮:
: 可是實際上工作過的都知道 面議才是真正保護勞工的
保護什麼??
: 如果求職薪水就寫在104或其他地方
: 你還沒進去薪水全公司的人都知道 感覺是?
你覺得會因為你的薪水多少就增加被詐騙/搶劫的機率嗎?
我一直認為薪水從來都不會是秘密,
人都會打聽,
網路上不會問嗎?
你在公司不會跟人打聽嗎?
買東西都會比價了,找工作不會?
華人又最習慣過年就問你現在薪水多少,
就算公司不公佈,你爸媽也會幫你放送XD
我開公司之前當了非常多年的鋼琴老師,
我們這一行絕對都是先打聽薪資才決定是否面試,
所以每個老師之間都知道彼此的身價;
後來我開了公司,
我們的薪資結構也都是公開的,
看過我發的徵人啟事就知道,
我們的薪資結構細到連三節獎金計算方式都是公開在網路上的,
(只有抽成是面試才會談)
我們發薪水當天是全公司傳閱薪資條+簽名,
開會後我都會問:
有沒有人對自己薪資不滿意的?提出來討論。
你說肯定沒有人敢講。
錯了,
目前為止有一位PT提了,提完次月我就把她調薪一階,
我下個月也打算再調她一階,
(這位PT今年四、五月任職)
還有一個美編也提了,
這位就是今年端午跟中秋獎金都領五位數的。
薪資公開對個人、對小型公司而言,都是利大於弊,
彼此會競爭,有競爭就會有進步,
我不喜歡私下抱怨薪水如何,
有本事就公開提出來,讓其他同事也看看你是否真的值得調薪,
沒有調薪的人,看到其他被調薪的人,
心裡就有譜,鞭策自己。
--
俺是驗過最多AV女優肉體的人...新建粉絲頁衝點讚拼藍勾勾中~~
□ ┌─┐ █
. │ 眼睛大而無神,不如小而勾魂; ┌─┐.
■└─┘ 老二大而不硬,不如短小精幹。 █─┘
* https://www.facebook.com/RealSallyQ/
--
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